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07-04-2012, 03:54 PM
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hey...hawks fan in peace. do you guys think he'd be ready to take on a 1st goalie role for team canada in sochi? meaning...assuming we need an upgrade on luongo or fleury do you think he'd be ready to go?
If they're smart then they probably will. But team Canada has made suboptimal choices on goal recently. They tend to rely on reputation, which can be pretty misleading for netminders. All a cup win means for a goalie is that he got hot at the right time behind a competitive team.

Broduer shouldn't have been the starter in Vancouver and Fleury wasn't close to being Canada's third best goalie.

Unless things change a lot by then it should be between Luongo, Price and Ward. IMO Price is probably the most skilled of the 3, but at that level of goaltending we're talking pretty marginal differences.

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For Sochi, if Price plays well then I think it's him, Ward and whomever else steps up as the goalies.

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07-04-2012, 06:25 PM
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Don't get me wrong, Price is a very good young goalie, but I believe the contract is a tad high. It's based more on potential than actual performance. What is the highest awarded salary to a restricted free agent, does anyone know?

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07-04-2012, 06:35 PM
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If they're smart then they probably will. But team Canada has made suboptimal choices on goal recently. They tend to rely on reputation, which can be pretty misleading for netminders. All a cup win means for a goalie is that he got hot at the right time behind a competitive team.

Broduer shouldn't have been the starter in Vancouver and Fleury wasn't close to being Canada's third best goalie.

Unless things change a lot by then it should be between Luongo, Price and Ward. IMO Price is probably the most skilled of the 3, but at that level of goaltending we're talking pretty marginal differences.
It is the way it has always been and always will be. Proven commodities and longevity of career are always paramount when picking an international team as deep as Canada.

Luongo will be the starter on game 1 in Sochi and I wouldnt have it any other way.

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It is the way it has always been and always will be. Proven commodities and longevity of career are always paramount when picking an international team as deep as Canada.

Luongo will be the starter on game 1 in Sochi and I wouldnt have it any other way.
I'd say that the chances for Luongo to start are 1 in a million for Sochi. You can bookmark this baby.

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Don't get me wrong, Price is a very good young goalie, but I believe the contract is a tad high. It's based more on potential than actual performance. What is the highest awarded salary to a restricted free agent, does anyone know?
Here's the list of the highest 10 paid goalies next season.


Player Pos Team Age Length Amount
1. Rinne, Pekka G NAS 29 7 $7,000,000
2. Lundqvist, Henrik G NYR 30 6 $6,875,000
3. Luongo, Roberto G VAN 33 12 $6,714,000
4. Bryzgalov, Ilya G PHI 32 9 $6,500,000
5. Ward, Cam G CAR 28 6 $6,400,000
6. Miller, Ryan G BUF 31 5 $6,250,000
7. Backstrom, Niklas G MIN 34 4 $6,000,000
8. Fleury, Marc-Andre G PIT 27 7 $5,500,000
9. Price, Carey G MTL 24 6 $5,500,000
10. Kiprusoff, Miikka G CGY 35 6 $5,000,000

Out of that list, only 2 won the cup. Fleury is playing on the team that's carried the best two players of the NHL these past few years, and his play has been very inconsistent. Ward hasn't done much since his booming rookie year.
Every single one of the goalies on that list has had better and worse years, just like Price. Price is the youngest though.

If Price hasn't earned his salary, then a bunch of the top 10 also fall into that category.

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Isn't that the argument being presented in the case against Halak? That his stats were inflated thanks to Martin's system that limited the number of quality shots?

Why is it fair to use it there but here?
I'm not talking about Halak in the statement you quoted. Halak was still the team MVP of the 2010 playoff run, but he had a lot more help than most would like to admit.

It's kind of like the Bruins in '11. Thomas' Conn Smythe was well deserved and the obvious choice, but guys like Chara, Seidenberg, Krejci, Marchand and their whole third line really stepped up their game.

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Jeff ONeill ‏@odognine2

If Wideman gets 5.25 PK Subban gets 24M per season.

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I will love this signing only if he switches back to Vaughn. He looks like a robot in those Reebok's.

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07-05-2012, 06:28 AM
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Jeff ONeill ‏@odognine2

If Wideman gets 5.25 PK Subban gets 24M per season.
Is that Jeff ONeill the ex player?

But yeah, it's true. I'm thinking Subban gets a one year deal on the cheap at best (around 3-4m) or he gets "Price'd" at 5-6 years for around 5.25m per.

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I will love this signing only if he switches back to Vaughn. He looks like a robot in those Reebok's.
The vaughns he had before he made the switch to reebok were sick.

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For Sochi, if Price plays well then I think it's him, Ward and whomever else steps up as the goalies.
Luongo will still be in the mix, he did win gold for us 2 years ago and Yzerman will bring him back

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Here's the list of the highest 10 paid goalies next season.


Player Pos Team Age Length Amount
1. Rinne, Pekka G NAS 29 7 $7,000,000
2. Lundqvist, Henrik G NYR 30 6 $6,875,000
3. Luongo, Roberto G VAN 33 12 $6,714,000
4. Bryzgalov, Ilya G PHI 32 9 $6,500,000
5. Ward, Cam G CAR 28 6 $6,400,000
6. Miller, Ryan G BUF 31 5 $6,250,000
7. Backstrom, Niklas G MIN 34 4 $6,000,000
8. Fleury, Marc-Andre G PIT 27 7 $5,500,000
9. Price, Carey G MTL 24 6 $5,500,000
10. Kiprusoff, Miikka G CGY 35 6 $5,000,000

Out of that list, only 2 won the cup. Fleury is playing on the team that's carried the best two players of the NHL these past few years, and his play has been very inconsistent. Ward hasn't done much since his booming rookie year.
Every single one of the goalies on that list has had better and worse years, just like Price. Price is the youngest though.

If Price hasn't earned his salary, then a bunch of the top 10 also fall into that category.


Dude you goofed, Price gets a $6.5 mill cap hit, which places him 5th on that list.

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Is that Jeff ONeill the ex player?

But yeah, it's true. I'm thinking Subban gets a one year deal on the cheap at best (around 3-4m) or he gets "Price'd" at 5-6 years for around 5.25m per.
It is. He's hilarious on Twitter.

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It is. He's hilarious on Twitter.
He's probably my favourite twitter personality. Everyone should follow him, he's got great material.

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Price stands to make 39 million guaranteed. It is that next contract 6 years from now that will determine if he's making more total money than Quick. Price will need to make at last an extra 19 million dollars for his subsequent contract to make more than Quick.

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Price stands to make 39 million guaranteed. It is that next contract 6 years from now that will determine if he's making more total money than Quick. Price will need to make at last an extra 19 million dollars for his subsequent contract to make more than Quick.
let's all hope he does...

if he's firmly (still or more emphatically) established as one of the league's best in 6 years from now, at only 30 years old, can you imagine what that next contract will be like...

if the league is still running even relatively smoothly, it will likely mean a deal with an annual salary in the 10M$+ range... he'll be 30, sitting on 50M$ already banked, likely to make more than double that in his next 5 years of work... damn!

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Dude you goofed, Price gets a $6.5 mill cap hit, which places him 5th on that list.
I think he meant Price's real salary next year. Yes the average cap hit is 6.5 million over the course of his contract, but his actual salary next year is 5.5 million according to this site.

http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams/MTL?year=2013

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