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07-05-2012, 05:11 PM
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While I am happy he is re-signed, how are Schneider and Rask good comparables? Sounds like Bob is bracing us for a bigger than expected number. Of course we do have the cap space over the next 2 years, so not a huge deal I guess.

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I'm saying he's not a PROVEN NHL starting goalie. So why throw money at somebody like that? I could care less if he's going into the season as a starter. He might still lose his starting position to an aging boozer~ Khabbi... just like last season. Why pay somebody who has not earned it.
He has earned it. He took back the starting job after Boulin's player of the month caliber start. You won't get a good, young goalie to sign for 1.5 million. Average backups get 1.5 million. You seem to think that this is a "we're only paying this, so sign here" type situation. It's a negotiation, both parties have to agree.

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.916 and .914 are his sv% the last 2 seasons. He is easily NHL caliber based on those seasons. He might not be starting goaltender material but I certainly wouldn't advise taking him to arbitration over 1 year at a marginal salary...
I would. If he has a successful season, lock him up for a what he`s more worth. Ive seen nothing in his game that proves anything other than uncertainty.

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He has earned it. He took back the starting job after Boulin's player of the month caliber start. You won't get a good, young goalie to sign for 1.5 million. Average backups get 1.5 million. You seem to think that this is a "we're only paying this, so sign here" type situation. It's a negotiation, both parties have to agree.
That`s why I mention I`d take him to arbitration this season.

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I would. If he has a successful season, lock him up for a what he`s more worth. Ive seen nothing in his game that proves anything other than uncertainty.
Which is why he only got a 2 year deal and not 5. This is the ultimate no brainer contract.

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07-05-2012, 05:15 PM
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That`s why I mention I`d take him to arbitration this season.
Go ask David Poile how well arbitration works. He took Weber to arbitration and pissed people off. Its not the only reason his team is falling apart, but Weber will bounce from Nashville in part because the GM pissed him off with an arbitration hearing. I`d rather give a guy a few extra bucks than go through that process. A two year deal is the perfect way to let Dubs show if he can make it as an NHL starter.

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Which is why he only got a 2 year deal and not 5. This is the ultimate no brainer contract.
As long as he`s not making 3m per season. I know he fits in the cap but its the principal of not rewarding players for mediocrity.

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As long as he`s not making 3m per season. I know he fits in the cap but its the principal of not rewarding players for mediocrity.
I think they would be rewarding him for his very good second half of last season. He wasn`t mediocre from January until the end of the year.

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As long as he`s not making 3m per season. I know he fits in the cap but its the principal of not rewarding players for mediocrity.
3m would be a slight overpayment, if that is what the number turn out to be. I would think 2.5/season is about what he deserves and so 3 would be a bit high for my liking, but I am happy to have him back and hope he continues to play well.

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Go ask David Poile how well arbitration works. He took Weber to arbitration and pissed people off. Its not the only reason his team is falling apart, but Weber will bounce from Nashville in part because the GM pissed him off with an arbitration hearing. I`d rather give a guy a few extra bucks than go through that process. A two year deal is the perfect way to let Dubs show if he can make it as an NHL starter.
Oilers have taken players to arbitration. Nobody`s feeling are hurt. It takes the middle ground that`s closer to being fair betrween what the player `thinks`he`s worth and what the organization `thinks he`s worth. Tell me how its a bad thing..

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No Ganger yet? Hmmm....

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I'm saying he's not a PROVEN NHL starting goalie. So why throw money at somebody like that? I could care less if he's going into the season as a starter. He might still lose his starting position to an aging boozer~ Khabbi... just like last season. Why pay somebody who has not earned it.
And either is Schneider.

And he got 3.5 million a year. Yes it is wonderful that we all think that Schneider is going to be better.

At the NHL level he hasn't been a starter, just like Dubnyk. They are similar whether people want to admit it or not.

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I think they would be rewarding him for his very good second half of last season. He wasn`t mediocre from January until the end of the year.
I thought he was terrible from the start until trade deadline last season. Then he was spectacular for a couple months.

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Oilers have taken players to arbitration. Nobody`s feeling are hurt. It takes the middle ground that`s closer to being fair betrween what the player `thinks`he`s worth and what the organization `thinks he`s worth. Tell me how its a bad thing..
David Poile openly stated that he regrets taking Weber to arbitration because of how it affected the relationship they had. As I said, I`d rather give the guy an extra 500 thousand than go through that risk. It`s not likely that Dubnyk was after 5 million per year, which is the only logical time to use arbitration.

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$3.5M - too much.

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I thought he was terrible from the start until trade deadline last season. Then he was spectacular for a couple months.
Agree to disagree I suppose. He let in fewer shaky goals after Christmas by a large margin, and that is my only complaint with his game.

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And either is Schneider.

And he got 3.5 million a year. Yes it is wonderful that we all think that Schneider is going to be better.

At the NHL level he hasn't been a starter, just like Dubnyk. They are similar whether people want to admit it or not.
I never compared the two...

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3.5 million????? WTF.

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$3.5M - too much.
I blame Rask and Red Head

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That is way too much for Dubnyk. The Oilers obviously love this guy. No way he gets that from any other team. Doesn't hurt us for the moment but it definitely sends a bad message.

Edit: The only way this was a good decision is if Gagner is signing quick as well so our bases are covered for a Weber offersheet.

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Devan Dubnyk's contract is 2 years AAV $3.5 million while Jeff Petry's deal is 2 years AAV $1.75 million

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No Ganger yet? Hmmm....
I dont think that one is going to get done for awhile. If hes in play maybe his new team wants to sign him to a contract. Dollar wise could be 2.5-4.5 so who knows. If we sign him i hope its not for too long.

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I would have been fine with 3 million, but I think the extra 500 K wasn`t necessary.

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David Poile openly stated that he regrets taking Weber to arbitration because of how it affected the relationship they had. As I said, I`d rather give the guy an extra 500 thousand than go through that risk. It`s not likely that Dubnyk was after 5 million per year, which is the only logical time to use arbitration.
Weber started off as a much better talent on an unrelated position. If Dubs put up proven numbers and was consistent, then arbitration wouldnt be mentioned.

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I never compared the two...
Obviously his agent did. 3.5 million was the exact cap hit.

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