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07-05-2012, 05:47 PM
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Raphael Diaz Files for arbitration.

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07-05-2012, 05:48 PM
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Trade him

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He probably won't get much..

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Weird. It's not like he has a huge leverage here...

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Get some picks for next year. Trade him.

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Trade him
I concur.

I'd try and package him with some of our second rounders for Top-6 forward. Might not be enough, but I think Diaz has Top 4 potential on the right team.

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It's not like he has a lot of leverage. 1 year in the league, spent a good chunk injured. Wasn't particularly good at the begining either...

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I could see the habs walk if the judge award him a raise...

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I could see the habs walk if the judge award him a raise...
He was making 900k, so you think the Habs walk away if he gets awarded 1.2 or 1.3 mil? Brilliant!

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I wonder what they offered him. After all he did play better than
Emelin until later in the season, when he was playing hurt. And
Emelin got 2 mil x 2 years. Although the team may see Emelin as
having more upside.

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I wonder what they offered him. After all he did play better than
Emelin until later in the season, when he was playing hurt. And
Emelin got 2 mil x 2 years. Although the team may see Emelin as
having more upside.
Emelin had more leverage, better offers from the KHL probably.

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He was making 900k, so you think the Habs walk away if he gets awarded 1.2 or 1.3 mil? Brilliant!
I could definately see it if the habs feel that the 0.875m$ of Weber is more of a bargain than what Diaz is awarded !

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Meh, big deal. Let him file, won't get much.

Why all the cries to trade him? He did a fine job, especially as the year progressed. Played some substantial minutes for us.

Geez, people are awful touchy around here lately.

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I wonder what they offered him. After all he did play better than
Emelin until later in the season, when he was playing hurt. And
Emelin got 2 mil x 2 years. Although the team may see Emelin as
having more upside.
More upside and brings more to the table. Diaz is a dime a dozen. (See also: Weber, St.Denis)

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I wonder what they offered him. After all he did play better than
Emelin until later in the season, when he was playing hurt. And
Emelin got 2 mil x 2 years. Although the team may see Emelin as
having more upside.
Emelin is a needed commodity. Diaz is surplus, good surplus, but surplus none the less.

The only D-man who plays remotely as physical as Emelin is Subban, and there is a wide gap between the two yet still. Bouillon can enter the conversation, but after all he is only a short-term player/solution here

Offensive puck movers?

Markov
Subban (one versatile MF'er eh?)
Kaberle
Diaz
Weber

Not to mention Beaulieu in the minors, among other defensive prospects with good offensive upside like Ellis, Thrower, Dietz, Bennett.. It's a strong prospect area for the Habs. I *completely* agree that Diaz outplayed Emelin as a player, using his intelligence... Unfortunately, you need foot soldiers just as much as generals to win the war.

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I think he re-signs around 1-1.2m and Weber gets traded in a package deal somewhere.

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I'd go up to 1.7 as a worst case scenario(maybe even Emelin contract matching). He should get less and that's that. I think he just wants his future decided as soon as it can be.

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Meh, big deal. Let him file, won't get much.

Why all the cries to trade him? He did a fine job, especially as the year progressed. Played some substantial minutes for us.

Geez, people are awful touchy around here lately.
Soft as butter........

Diaz would do fine on a team with a surplus of physical DMen.

We still have Kaberle and Weber. We need a little more grit on D.

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99% chance he doesn't go to arbitration.

..one thing to file, another thing to actually go to arbitration.

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Soft as butter........

Diaz would do fine on a team with a surplus of physical DMen.

We still have Kaberle and Weber. We need a little more grit on D.
At least weber and diaz have some sort of willingness to use their body despite being undersized. I don't think kaberle knows what board play or a bodycheck is.

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I'm expecting him to get around $2 million if it actually goes to arbitration and it wouldn't surprise me to see the Habs walk away from that. The arbitration process is all about the stats on NHL.com and Diaz has the edge over Emelin (same age, same NHL experience, similar GP on the same team) in every NHL.com stat category other than hits. That's probably where is comparables start

Emelin's the better defenseman but the arbitration process is not about rewarding the better player it's all about the simple NHL.com numbers; especially since the arbitrator may not even be a hockey person.

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Diaz, Bourque and a 1st rnd pick for Ryder, Halak and a 2nd rnd pick.

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Trade Weber, keep Diaz.

Weber might have more offensive potential but Diaz is more solid all-around.

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More upside and brings more to the table. Diaz is a dime a dozen. (See also: Weber, St.Denis)
While I agree that Emelin has more upside FOR THIS TEAM because he brings a different kind of game style - I don't agree that Diaz is a dime a dozen player. He was on pace for 22-points (probably could have had more if he didn't play the last chunk injured) and he is a very smart player.

Also comparing Weber to St-Denis is like comparing fried chicken to broccoli. Two completely different kinds of defenseman.

As far as all the "trade him" posts because he filed for arbitration .. lots of players do it. Hell, Montreal filed for arbitration on Price (even though it was for different circumstances). Montreal has filed for arbitration on many players before.

Diaz wants to be a Hab.

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/...eping-his-job/

One of my favourite quotes from the article;

"“There were a lot of changes in my life this year — changing leagues, changing countries,” Diaz said. “I didn’t know if I’d be playing in the NHL or AHL, but I trained hard and my goal was to play for the Canadiens."

And another;

"“Everything was like a dream, playing in a Canadiens jersey,” Diaz said."

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I think he filed because he was scared of an offer sheet

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