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Calgary Flames 2012 Prospect Rankings - #10

View Poll Results: Who is the Flames' number ten prospect?
Akim Aliu 1 2.94%
Bill Arnold 0 0%
Lance Bouma 0 0%
Laurent Brossoit 15 44.12%
Paul Byron 3 8.82%
Michael Ferland 10 29.41%
Ryan Howse 0 0%
Joni Ortio 0 0%
Patrick Sieloff 3 8.82%
John Ramage 2 5.88%
Tyler Wotherspoon 0 0%
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07-06-2012, 01:24 AM
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Calgary Flames 2012 Prospect Rankings - #10

Number One - Sven Baertschi (95%)


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Number Two - T.J. Brodie (63%)


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Number Three - Leland Irving (40%)


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Number Four A - Johnny Gaudreau (39%)


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Number Four B - Max Reinhart (37%)


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Number Six - Mark Jankowski (64%)


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Number Seven - Roman Horak (25%)


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Number Eight - Greg Nemisz (32%)


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Number Nine - Markus Granlund (24%)


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07-06-2012, 01:29 AM
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Tight between Brossoit, Byron and Ferland for me. These three are the guys left who I would consider to be really solid prospects. The guys behind them have big holes and question marks, whether its attitude and work ethic (Aliu and Howse), skating (Arnold), or offense (Sieloff, Wotherspoon, and Ramage).

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Sieloff might not have the offensive upside, but he's sound defensively. Think of a smaller/more explosive/better skating Regehr. He's a great prospect, who fans will fall in love with.

It's a toss up between Ferland and Sieloff for me.

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OMG i picked the wrong player... io went with ferland over Ramage... i love Ramage....

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Tight between Brossoit, Byron and Ferland for me. These three are the guys left who I would consider to be really solid prospects. The guys behind them have big holes and question marks, whether its attitude and work ethic (Aliu and Howse), skating (Arnold), or offense (Sieloff, Wotherspoon, and Ramage).
i dont think offence will be a problem with wotherspoon or ramage... maybe sieloff tho...

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Hahaha, just noticed there's a 4A and a 4B... can't you just call them 4 and 5 and it's basically the same thing?

HF people love to add As and Bs to the end of numbers I've noticed

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i dont think offence will be a problem with wotherspoon or ramage... maybe sieloff tho...
Really? The fact that John Ramge's offensive output hasn't changed whatsoever from his freshman year is telling in terms of his offensive growth and potential. He has pretty much reached it.

Wotherspoon did double his point totals from last season, but 28 points in 67 games doesn't exactly scream 'offensive upside' to me.

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Hahaha, just noticed there's a 4A and a 4B... can't you just call them 4 and 5 and it's basically the same thing?

HF people love to add As and Bs to the end of numbers I've noticed
If you go back and look at the poll, it was between Reinhart and Gaudreau all the way. The only other player receiving any votes was Jankowski and he was still way back. It wouldn't have felt right to put one over the other.

When I 4A/4B, I don't mean that the 4A player is slightly better than 4B, I'm indicating that they are the same and that there are two of them.

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Really? The fact that John Ramge's offensive output hasn't changed whatsoever from his freshman year is telling in terms of his offensive growth and potential. He has pretty much reached it.

Wotherspoon did double his point totals from last season, but 28 points in 67 games doesn't exactly scream 'offensive upside' to me.
i meant i see them being better offensively (25-30 points) than sieloff (sarich production), and other defensive dmen... and thats i dont consider lack of offensive production a huge loss in a defensive d man

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Really? The fact that John Ramge's offensive output hasn't changed whatsoever from his freshman year is telling in terms of his offensive growth and potential. He has pretty much reached it.

Wotherspoon did double his point totals from last season, but 28 points in 67 games doesn't exactly scream 'offensive upside' to me.
To some degree, but he was also stuck behind three impressive OFD.

Joe Morrow
Derrick Poulliot
Troy Rutkowski

He will get a slight increase in his opportunity I imagine with Rutkowski most likely going pro. I think he has 25-30 point upside at the NHL level, more so than Ramage in my estimation.

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Brossoit for me.

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sieloff severely under rated...
i understand you guys see a lot of chl hockey, but jesus.... broissot is not a top prospect of this team.

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Went with Brossoit.

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Going through these rankings should give Flames fans some pause to realize help is on the way. There are some good players to pick through. Only one is a bluechipper, but there are still some good prospects in the mix. Looking at the list I think there are two ways to look at it. One is to say who has the highest upside. The second is to say who has the highest potential to make it to the NHL and play on the Calgary Flames. I think both lists, a bakers dozen of each, should look like this, recognizing that Brodie has already graduated to the NHL.

Highest potential

1. Bartschi
2. Gaudreau
3. Jankowski
4. Reinhart
5. Irving
6. Granlund
7. Horak
8. Arnold
9. Ramage
10. Ferland
11. Nemisz
12. Sieloff
13. Bouwma

Most likely to play in NHL

1. Bartschi
2. Bouma
3. Irving
4. Reinhart
5. Nemisz
6. Horak
7. Ferland
8. Ramage
9. Sieloff
10. Wotherspoon
11. Howse
12. Gaudreau
13. Jankowski

There are a lot of things that prevent players from getting to the NHL and that is what makes the difference in the lists. Size, style of play, needs of the team, economics, training habits, and pure desire make or break players. I think the Flames have a very interesting group of prospects, way better than many of the talking heads like to admit, and the future is a lot brighter than we imagined, no matter which way you look at it.

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sieloff severely under rated...
i understand you guys see a lot of chl hockey, but jesus.... broissot is not a top prospect of this team.
This.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see Gillies jump passed Brossit in the near future.

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Ferland.

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This.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see Gillies jump passed Brossit in the near future.
Brossoit had a great year and playoff for the oil kings, he is a year ahead of gillies in his development, at this point he Is ahead of gillies on the depth chart, not saying that won't change tho, just at this point in time.

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Brossoit had a great year and playoff for the oil kings, he is a year ahead of gillies in his development, at this point he Is ahead of gillies on the depth chart, not saying that won't change tho, just at this point in time.
I know this. If you re-read my original post, you will see I never said he is ahead of Brossoit's development at this time... I was more hinting that I believe Gillies he has higher upside..

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Question: How is the jank not at number one? He's clearly the best drafted player since Lemieux, and even then I doubt Lemieux could match Jankowski.

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