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07-05-2012, 08:49 PM
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Montreal - Detroit



Tomas Kaberle
Yannick Weber
Aaron Palushaj(RFA)
2nd round pick'13(NSH)

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Daniel Cleary

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07-05-2012, 08:52 PM
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Tomas Kaberle
Yannick Weber
Aaron Palushaj(RFA)
2nd round pick'13(NSH)

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Kyle Quincey(RFA)
Daniel Cleary
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07-05-2012, 08:56 PM
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Gladly.
Pretty much.

Why the hell would the Habs do that?

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07-05-2012, 09:00 PM
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Are you kidding? In a nanosecond.

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07-05-2012, 09:04 PM
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Pretty much.

Why the hell would the Habs do that?
Because of Montreal's top 6 not a lot of room for Palushaj. He isn't effective as a 4th liner which he is in Montreal not because of play just that's where coaching kept putting him.

Montreal has a few puck movers in Markov/Subban/Diaz making the Habs have a abundance on PMDs.

With Detroit taking a hit to their defense this offseason with Stuart and Lidstrom gone. They have a few gritty guys with a little bit offense. This would give them a PMD(Kaberle) and a shot from the point(Weber) in dmen. Also getting a high pick for prospect addition to the pool.

Montreal gets a big dman who can use the body when needed and does his job decently. He is an RFA so Montreal would still have to sign him but I think they could.

Cleary is a piece I would like. He adds depth and in case Bourque possibly doesn't work out in the top6 it would hurt putting Cleary there to shake things up. He can get between 30-40pts. If he doesn't play top 6 he is definitely effective for bottom 6 along side a Moen and Eller.

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07-05-2012, 09:05 PM
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He's probably thinking along these lines:

Quincy is better than Kaberle
Cleary is better then Palushaj
Webber is added to "balance the trade" or just because he's added in 98% of Habs offers
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the second round pick is one of three we have in that round next year so not such a loss there.

Apparently he hasn't seen our 2nd round picks this draft year?!

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07-05-2012, 09:09 PM
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He's probably thinking along these lines:

Quincy is better than Kaberle
Cleary is better then Palushaj
Webber is added to "balance the trade" or just because he's added in 98% of Habs offers
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the second round pick is one of three we have in that round next year so not such a loss there.

Apparently he hasn't seen our 2nd round picks this draft year?!
Quincey is better than Kaberle? I'm not a fan of Tomas, far from it, but even that is a stretch. Kabby's stock has fallen drastically in the last few years, but he's still a capable PMD/PPQB that can put up 40+ points a year.

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07-05-2012, 09:09 PM
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I'd take that in a heartbeat before the Habs came to their senses.

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07-05-2012, 09:10 PM
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He's probably thinking along these lines:

Quincy is better than Kaberle
Cleary is better then Palushaj
Webber is added to "balance the trade" or just because he's added in 98% of Habs offers
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the second round pick is one of three we have in that round next year so not such a loss there.

Apparently he hasn't seen our 2nd round picks this draft year?!
I have seen our picks this year and I was extremely happy. You go look on the Habs board I was saying I wanted them to get Dalton Thrower for awhile. Dpartner of Dietz in juniors which we also have in our system to keep them possibly developing togethe.r Collberg was icing on the cake.

If you look at my post earlier to you will see my reasoning behind the trade and it's not the thought process ou put him either.

Taking out the 2nd could possibly make it more even if need be. Would Detroit and be willing todo that deal but without the 2nd?

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07-05-2012, 09:12 PM
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Pierre Gauthier is still not your GM OP.

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07-05-2012, 09:59 PM
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habs say no...cmon man..at least take the second out of there LOL.

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07-05-2012, 10:20 PM
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Please remember he doesn't represent or speak for most Hab fans.
We disagree with most of his proposals including this one.

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07-06-2012, 04:16 AM
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Are you kidding? In a nanosecond.
Umm what? We don't want Kaberle and his terrible contract.

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07-06-2012, 04:31 AM
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Yeah, drop the 2nd rounder and I'd be totally into that trade from the Habs' POV. Kaberle is essentially useless for us, although I can see him contributing in the right situation elsewhere. I'd much rather have Quincey, even while not having a very high opinion of Quincey either. Do we have to wait until the arbitration hearing is over? I'm good with that. We just need him for one year anyway, hopefully. Take whatever the arbitrator gives him for 1 year, then we'll know if we want him or want to let him walk thereafter. Ditto Cleary... UFA next season? All the better.

The way Wings fans seem to climb onboard with this proposal I feel like I want to try to put Bourque in there too from our side.

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07-06-2012, 07:05 AM
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Yeah, drop the 2nd rounder and I'd be totally into that trade from the Habs' POV. Kaberle is essentially useless for us, although I can see him contributing in the right situation elsewhere. I'd much rather have Quincey, even while not having a very high opinion of Quincey either. Do we have to wait until the arbitration hearing is over? I'm good with that. We just need him for one year anyway, hopefully. Take whatever the arbitrator gives him for 1 year, then we'll know if we want him or want to let him walk thereafter. Ditto Cleary... UFA next season? All the better.

The way Wings fans seem to climb onboard with this proposal I feel like I want to try to put Bourque in there too from our side.

Shall we

well okay :

Bourque Kaberle Pateryn Cgy 2nd 2013

Cleary Quincey Jurco Det 4th 2013

Trolling time.

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07-06-2012, 01:44 PM
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In a heartbeat, and I don't like Kaberle.

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07-06-2012, 01:47 PM
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Just a question but can Quincey even be traded right now since he filed for arbitration. I know if they worked out a deal he can be.

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Tomas Kaberle
Yannick Weber
Aaron Palushaj(RFA)
2nd round pick'13(NSH)

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Kyle Quincey(RFA)
Daniel Cleary
Why not just Kaberle+ for Cleary?

No need to make it so complicated although I still wouldn't mind it that much if we did this.

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07-06-2012, 03:35 PM
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Not a bad proposal even from a Habs point of view.

Every players from the Habs are useless. Kabby can play on the PP that's all.

Cleary and Quincey are useful players.

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07-06-2012, 03:38 PM
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Not a bad proposal even from a Habs point of view.

Every players from the Habs are useless. Kabby can play on the PP that's all.

Cleary and Quincey are useful players.
Cleary is useful when he's not injured. AKA never.

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07-06-2012, 03:42 PM
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Pierre Gauthier is still not your GM OP.
The OP is Pierre Gauthier

Every proposal is terrible, he makes the Habs worse on 95% of his deals

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The OP is Pierre Gauthier

Every proposal is terrible, he makes the Habs worse on 95% of his deals
Quincey and Cleary makes the Habs better than Kabby, Weber and Palushaj. As both would play regular minutes and be part of the team, the three others are benchwarmers.

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Umm what? We don't want Kaberle and his terrible contract.
You see....you have to make this trade before people come to there senses.

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07-06-2012, 05:51 PM
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Tomas Kaberle
Yannick Weber
Aaron Palushaj(RFA)
2nd round pick'13(NSH)

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Kyle Quincey(RFA)
Daniel Cleary
This is about appropriate value. Problem is Detroit gave up a boatload to get Quincey back because he has big backers in the organization including Holland. Cleary while always hurt seems to remain Babs favorite player. I think the Wings should probably do this, but unfortunately they value those two particular players a lot. Even if Wings fans hate that it is worth pointing out in these discussions.

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