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07-07-2012, 02:02 AM
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I don't see why Florida would need Gagner. They have Weiss who'll be a perfect 2nd line centers when Huberdeau's ready to be the 1st center. What Florida would really needs is size on the wings. A good power forward.

Edmonton have Hemsky for trade but he's not physical enough and injury prone. Florida already have Fleishmann that fits the same mold.

++ Kulikov to Edmonton doesn't really seems like a good fit to me.

I think Florida should try to target some power forwards wingers like Chris Stewart in St-Louis or maybe even go after B. Ryan.

Easiest for Florida would be to sign A. Kostitsyn or Semin. But they really need help on the wings.

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Clearly the OP doesn't have a clue about Edmonton's prospects and the last thing the Oilers need is another D prospect. Is Kulikov better the J.Schultz, no. Is he better then Klefbom, no. It's debatable if he's better then Musil, Gernat, and Marincin. Kulikov looks like he could be a great D, but Edmonton passes.

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07-07-2012, 02:12 AM
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I don't see why Florida would need Gagner. They have Weiss who'll be a perfect 2nd line centers when Huberdeau's ready to be the 1st center. What Florida would really needs is size on the wings. A good power forward.

Edmonton have Hemsky for trade but he's not physical enough and injury prone. Florida already have Fleishmann that fits the same mold.

++ Kulikov to Edmonton doesn't really seems like a good fit to me.

I think Florida should try to target some power forwards wingers like Chris Stewart in St-Louis or maybe even go after B. Ryan.

Easiest for Florida would be to sign A. Kostitsyn or Semin. But they really need help on the wings.
They may call Huberdeau as a center, but he has played on the wing most of his junior career.

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Is he better then Klefbom, no. It's debatable if he's better then Musil, Gernat, and Marincin. Kulikov looks like he could be a great D, but Edmonton passes.
He is better than all of those and he is only 21.

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He is better than all of those and he is only 21.
none of those dmen are 21...




also, gagner is super washed up at 22.

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Gagner for Ellerby + a decent prospect would make more sense. McFarland? Robak? Someone like that.
Oilers have enough of the Ellerby type with Teubert, Peckham and Plante.

Donno if there is much of a trade to be made there.

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none of those dmen are 21....
And none of them have 3 years NHL by the age of 21.

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I thought PKane was underrated. Kulikov gets no love what so ever. He's an incredibly talented, established, 21 year old defenseman.

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Oilers have enough of the Ellerby type with Teubert, Peckham and Plante.

Donno if there is much of a trade to be made there.
haha nice comparison Spawn.

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The Oilers are so FILLED with top end talent, watch them bomb for another 3 years just to see MSP, Hall and a half of a dozen of their other overrated prospects getting the bust label.
Klefbom better than Kulikov? You must be ****ing insane to write **** like that.

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07-07-2012, 05:09 AM
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If Kulikov was available I think there would be a lot of teams interested. As a Blues fan I would hope we would outbid a Gagner package for him. I am sure at least over half the GMs in the league would be interested in him.

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07-07-2012, 05:18 AM
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Clearly the OP doesn't have a clue about Edmonton's prospects and the last thing the Oilers need is another D prospect. Is Kulikov better the J.Schultz, no. Is he better then Klefbom, no. It's debatable if he's better then Musil, Gernat, and Marincin. Kulikov looks like he could be a great D, but Edmonton passes.
Kulikov is an NHL defenseman not a prospect. As of now he is better then Schultz as he is proven to be a very good NHL defenseman. Yes he is better then Klefbom as he is a proven NHL defenseman. He's worlds better then Musil, Gernat and Marincin.

I honestly don't think you know who Kulikov is by your statement. Kulikov is a very good NHL defenseman currently with potential to be much better

As a Blues fan I would love to have Kulikov paired with Pietrangelo. I would take him over all the players you named without a second thought.

All the Oiler defenseman you listed have played how many NHL games? How can you say 2 prospects that never played in the NHL are better then a proven to be good NHL defenseman. That's like me saying Tarasenko or Schwartz are better then Hall currently.

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If Kulikov was available I think there would be a lot of teams interested. As a Blues fan I would hope we would outbid a Gagner package for him. I am sure at least over half the GMs in the league would be interested in him.
EVERY GM in the league would bid for Kulukov and everyone of them would offer more than Gagner and a secondary prospect.

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07-07-2012, 06:54 AM
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Clearly the OP doesn't have a clue about Edmonton's prospects and the last thing the Oilers need is another D prospect. Is Kulikov better the J.Schultz, no. Is he better then Klefbom, no. It's debatable if he's better then Musil, Gernat, and Marincin. Kulikov looks like he could be a great D, but Edmonton passes.
Clearly you have no clue about Kulikov... He would instantly be the Oilers best defenseman


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The Oilers are so FILLED with top end talent, watch them bomb for another 3 years just to see MSP, Hall and a half of a dozen of their other overrated prospects getting the bust label.
Klefbom better than Kulikov? You must be ****ing insane to write **** like that.
just cause 1 uninformed person said that doesn't mean it's true... Everyone who knows who Kulikov is knows he's better. Relax

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Clearly the OP doesn't have a clue about Edmonton's prospects and the last thing the Oilers need is another D prospect. Is Kulikov better the J.Schultz, no. Is he better then Klefbom, no. It's debatable if he's better then Musil, Gernat, and Marincin. Kulikov looks like he could be a great D, but Edmonton passes.
You're the one looking clueless with this statement, Kulikov has been a regular NHL player for 3 years now while the D-man from Edmonton you mentionned are nothing more than prospects so yeah Kulikov is a better hockey player now and probably in the future also.

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07-07-2012, 09:26 AM
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Clearly the OP doesn't have a clue about Edmonton's prospects and the last thing the Oilers need is another D prospect. Is Kulikov better the J.Schultz, no. Is he better then Klefbom, no. It's debatable if he's better then Musil, Gernat, and Marincin. Kulikov looks like he could be a great D, but Edmonton passes.
Clearly you don't know who Kulikov is.

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Clearly the OP doesn't have a clue about Edmonton's prospects and the last thing the Oilers need is another D prospect. Is Kulikov better the J.Schultz, no. Is he better then Klefbom, no. It's debatable if he's better then Musil, Gernat, and Marincin. Kulikov looks like he could be a great D, but Edmonton passes.
What on earth?
Schultz is a year older and 3 years behind in NHL experience. He's not even better than Klefbom.
If Klefbom reaches his potential, he'll be as good as Kulikov is now.

Of all those d-men listed, 1 has played in the NHL. Guess which one is the best?

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If Klefbom reaches his potential, he'll be as good as Kulikov is now.
I hope you're not being serious, but I have a feeling you might be.

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EVERY GM in the league would bid for Kulukov and everyone of them would offer more than Gagner and a secondary prospect.
Link?

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Link?
Don't need a link when it is common sense.

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What would the Oilers give up for Kulikov?
Without looking forward down this thread I think people wanna stick Gagner/Hemsky to Florida in this deal as usual. And yes folks. That deal isn't gonna happen!

Edit: I'd just had to move one post before someone had suggested Gagner!

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What on earth?
Schultz is a year older and 3 years behind in NHL experience. He's not even better than Klefbom.
If Klefbom reaches his potential, he'll be as good as Kulikov is now.

Of all those d-men listed, 1 has played in the NHL. Guess which one is the best?
There is a little thing called development. Klefbom and Schultz are both projected to be very good defensemen, like Kulikov is. The fact remains that I don't see why people are so adamant about which of the three is better, they are all very good young players with bright futures. The fact remains, that even if the Oilers don't trade for Kulikov, they still are stocked to the brim with good defense prospects. Which is why I am against any trade for Kulikov, he just doesn't fill a need. Our needs are simple. #1/2 defensemen (two of them unfortunately), big #2 center, and a scoring power forward. Kulikov is none of those right now, so I am not willing to spend the assets we could use to fill one of those holes on a guy who just adds depth to what we already have.

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Don't need a link when it is common sense.
How is it "common sense" to know what EVERY GM in the league would offer a package, especially when said package is better than a young #2 center who other GM's could very well value higher than Kulikov. Nothing about that is common sense. Its an opinion purely based on nothing but HF's valuation of these players, which means nothing to GM's. Sorry to burst your collective bubble.

EDIT - I don't doubt that a lot of teams would have interest, but to claim this as "common sense" when it is anything but is ignorant.


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Kulikov is a 21 year old PMD with 3 years NHL experience, who is already defensively responsible and whose offense is getting better and better. His stick handling and shooting skills were good enough that he won games in the shoot out for Florida. As such, I am confident that a number of teams would be lining up to make strong offers for him if Tallon made him available.

The Oilers and the Cats really do not make good trade partners.

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