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07-07-2012, 06:39 PM
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A prospect and top 6 forward for enstorm... We'll call it a deal if you add... iunno Gagner

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07-07-2012, 07:11 PM
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A prospect and top 6 forward for enstorm... We'll call it a deal if you add... iunno Gagner
Ugh please god no

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07-07-2012, 08:05 PM
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facepalm? really!??

Klefbom is NHL ready today, he has been playing in a mens league since he was 17, if it wasn't for his contract he would be higher on the list than J.Schultz at the moment.

Klefbom > J.Schultz

I can already picture you riding shotty on the Klefbom wagon.
He's been playing off and on with the top SEL division and was getting very little TOI until after the WJC were he took a big step forward. Matter of fact he was sent down to the junior team last year a couple of times. Towards the end of the year he was getting major TOI on the top pairing with Brodin and was seeing some PP time as well. This increase in TOI was do in most part his level of play, but it also had to do with injuries and suspensions to his fellow team mates. Also note his team was one of the worse teams in the SEL last year. It was in the best interest that he played another year in the SEL for the Oilers as ST stated in one interview. Big fan of Klefbom, but I know the facts and he could of played this year, but he wasn't as ready as J.Schultz by any means.

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07-07-2012, 08:33 PM
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He's been playing off and on with the top SEL division and was getting very little TOI until after the WJC were he took a big step forward. Matter of fact he was sent down to the junior team last year a couple of times. Towards the end of the year he was getting major TOI on the top pairing with Brodin and was seeing some PP time as well. This increase in TOI was do in most part his level of play, but it also had to do with injuries and suspensions to his fellow team mates. Also note his team was one of the worse teams in the SEL last year. It was in the best interest that he played another year in the SEL for the Oilers as ST stated in one interview. Big fan of Klefbom, but I know the facts and he could of played this year, but he wasn't as ready as J.Schultz by any means.
you recently bought a J.Schultz jersey and think he's the next Paul Coffey?

be honest Al.

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07-07-2012, 09:07 PM
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No handouts for the Oilers. I'd rather trade Enstrom for pieces the Jets could use both now and in the future. Hemsky is more fragile than the U.S economy. If we wanted a soft top 6 forward, we'd sign Semin in FA.
I love how the Hemsky being fragile talk is the "soup du jour" in here. Clearly he has suffered some significant injuries, that being said, the Oilers resigning him to the term and $$ they did clearly gives the indication (IMO) that they and their team doctors believe those issues have been resolved.

Going forward he now will get to play with Yakupov, an extremely fast and highly adept scorer who he and Gagner will be busy feeding the puck to.

I feel confident in saying Hemsky breaks 70 points this upcoming season (assuming the season isn't shortened due to CBA crap).

Oiler fans are split 50-50 on Hemsky as we have all been frustrated watching him struggle through injuries and then to regain the level of play he is capable of.

He will find his way again next season, whether on the Oilers or not. I really don't believe ST is seeking to move Hemsky, he'd listen for sure but I believe teams are asking And that is why his name pops up so often.

Stay in Edmonton Ales!!

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07-07-2012, 09:12 PM
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you recently bought a J.Schultz jersey and think he's the next Paul Coffey?

be honest Al.
Forgot to mention something to the facepalm, 90% of your proposals should be

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07-07-2012, 09:25 PM
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If Toby isn't interested is resigning with Winnipeg (that will be the only reason we trade him) he sure as hell isn't going to want to sign a long term deal with Edmonton either...

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07-07-2012, 09:38 PM
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If Toby isn't interested is resigning with Winnipeg (that will be the only reason we trade him) he sure as hell isn't going to want to sign a long term deal with Edmonton either...
Keep him, we aren't giving up Hemsky or any other significant pieces for a UFA.

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07-07-2012, 09:45 PM
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Winnipeg wants to get bigger and faster.

Not more skilled and fragile.
Hemsky is a good player but even if he was guaranteed never to miss another game, I wouldn't trade Enstrom for him. Regardless of injuries Enstrom is on a different level than Hemsky IMO - a top-pairing D, one of the better offensive defensemen in the game who's good defensively albeit undersized, is worth a lot more than a second-line winger. I realize contract plays a large role, but even still, there's no way I'd give up Enstrom for Hemsky. If Enstrom's leaving, there's better packages to be gained than this.

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If the Jets need to acquire d, it would be more dman like Enstrom, not Teubert who fits into the mold of Bogosian, Stuart, Buff, etc.
Did you really group Bogo and Stuart with Byfuglien?

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Funny that 99 out of 100 Hemsky proposals are from Oiler fans.

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07-07-2012, 10:08 PM
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If the Jets need to acquire d, it would be more dman like Enstrom, not Teubert who fits into the mold of Bogosian, Stuart, Buff, etc.
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Did you really group Bogo and Stuart with Byfuglien?

and Teubert!, maybe we'll keep Teubert!

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07-07-2012, 10:51 PM
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Of course oilers fans want to move hemsky... not because he is bad but because we have people ahead of him perhaps you have heard of them... Nail yakupov and Jordan eberle. Good players do get traded just because he is one of our best assets to move doesnt mean hes bad.
& Nail has proved himself in the NHL he makes Hemsky expendable?

Jamin is right. Hemsky may be injured a lot but he's not soft. Trying to play tougher then his body allows leads to many of his injuries.

Even so, he's not worth Enstrom (who I figure the Jets have a good chance of re-signing) nor his $5 million cap hit.

Teubert is merely redundant with Postma looking ready & the Oilers have more need for Teubert then the Jets do.

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07-08-2012, 12:45 AM
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If Toby isn't interested is resigning with Winnipeg (that will be the only reason we trade him) he sure as hell isn't going to want to sign a long term deal with Edmonton either...
Unless he wants to win in the future.

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07-08-2012, 01:00 AM
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Enstrom

Said this for Months, Enstrom is going to a high bidder who will re-sign the d-man. He is what Kaberle used be before the lockout. Teams will be willing to part with much more than softy Hemsky, sorry to say but his value is not what Oil fans wish it were. This deal is not going to happen, mark my words, Enstrom pulls in a Bobby Ryan type done deal Jets build top 6 and win division!

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Said this for Months, Enstrom is going to a high bidder who will re-sign the d-man. He is what Kaberle used be before the lockout. Teams will be willing to part with much more than softy Hemsky, sorry to say but his value is not what Oil fans wish it were. This deal is not going to happen, mark my words, Enstrom pulls in a Bobby Ryan type done deal Jets build top 6 and win division!
See flyersfan52's post or actually watch an oilers game

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facepalm? really!??

Klefbom is NHL ready today, he has been playing in a mens league since he was 17, if it wasn't for his contract he would be higher on the list than J.Schultz at the moment.

Klefbom > J.Schultz

I can already picture you riding shotty on the Klefbom wagon.
Have you ever watched either guy play? I didn't think so.

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If Toby isn't interested is resigning with Winnipeg (that will be the only reason we trade him) he sure as hell isn't going to want to sign a long term deal with Edmonton either...
Well, this is gold. You know how just about every fan base in the league can criticize our city because there's is bigger, cleaner, nicer weather, etc? Well you are the one city that can't, so think before you post.

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Well, this is gold. You know how just about every fan base in the league can criticize our city because there's is bigger, cleaner, nicer weather, etc? Well you are the one city that can't, so think before you post.
Because Winnipeg and Edmonton are SO different?
At least Winnipeg is self aware.

Enstrom should not be traded for players that cant hang with the 2nd worst club in the league imo.

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If the Jets need to acquire d, it would be more dman like Enstrom, not Teubert who fits into the mold of Bogosian, Stuart, Buff, etc.
You are totally wrong Colton Teubert is the exact type of defenceman we need a big defensive defenceman Bogo,stuart,and buff are all risk vs reward type players we need a shutdown d-man Teubert isn't quite ready to take that step i'm not sure if he will ever be but he is definately the type of D we need

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Funny that 99 out of 100 Hemsky proposals are from Oiler fans.
Hemsky is a rightwinger. So are Eberle and Yakupov. He could be injury free, putting up 75 points a season and he'd still be expendable.

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Well, this is gold. You know how just about every fan base in the league can criticize our city because there's is bigger, cleaner, nicer weather, etc? Well you are the one city that can't, so think before you post.
I'm pretty sure you're misunderstanding him. He was saying that because the cities are extremely similar in those regards, not because he was putting Edmonton down.

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You are totally wrong Colton Teubert is the exact type of defenceman we need a big defensive defenceman Bogo,stuart,and buff are all risk vs reward type players we need a shutdown d-man Teubert isn't quite ready to take that step i'm not sure if he will ever be but he is definately the type of D we need
Bogo and Stuart are risk vs reward type players not physical defensive defensemen? Based on the style Bogo played last year and Stuart has always played, saying they play a high risk style is like saying Crosby is more of a shutdown checking forward than a scorer - the skill-level is obviously not the point, but the comparison of styles illustrates just how ridiculously far off you were.

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Unless he wants to win in the future.
Be on a team that in the future wins the 1st pick overall again?

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Seems to me that Hemsky needs to stop being in trade proposals because no other team's fanbase on HF seems to think of him as a good player.

As an Oiler fan, there's no way we trade a top-6 winger with likely 5+ good years left in him and a bottom pairing prospect who probably will play in the NHL for a declining defenceman, as good as he may be. Should Hemsky be able to regain his 2008-09 form, we're sitting pretty. If not, we still have a near-PPG player who will give 50 games.

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Of course oilers fans want to move hemsky... not because he is bad but because we have people ahead of him perhaps you have heard of them... Nail yakupov and Jordan eberle. Good players do get traded just because he is one of our best assets to move doesnt mean hes bad.
that seems to be lost on Jet fans.

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Be on a team that in the future wins the 1st pick overall again?
you won't be laughing when the Oilers win the cup before your team does!

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