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07-07-2012, 06:58 PM
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The Official Trade Rumors and Proposals Thread Part 4

Last thread hit 1000. With the majority of the signing done I figured we could take that part of the conversation over to the "Around the NHL" stickied thread.

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I am not worried about our scoring this year. We actually have 2nd scoring now with Yak and I think Hemsky will be healthy, why not just start the season with Hall, RNH, Eberle, Hemsky, Gagner and Yak in your top 6 and see how it goes. I am sure Gagner's and Hemsky's value will both rise as the season goes on.
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Fully agree here. If that top 6 clicks, and Gagner and Hemsky aren't in longterm plans, hopefully they put up strong seasons and have trade value.

Though the catch is... if we're competing fir a playoff spot at the deadline... would management risk messing with that?
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If they managed to sign Doan I would be so unbelievably happy. I'd honestly have a Doan jersey ordered within 10 minutes... I'm expecting him to sign with San Jose or LA if Phoenix is up in the air though
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how exactly do you do this?


play gagner at wing while we "experiment"?


and IMO you'd need a full year to let him adjust and evaluate the last half/quarter. you could re address this next summer if needed.
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Pretty much that yes, because if it looks like its going south in a hurry, if he's the only option, it's all or nothing, that's a great way to make a huge mistake.

He doesn't need a full year, you don't have to waste that much time seeing if he can do it. If you're going to do it in earnest, it should take a couple months, he's either going to adapt his game or he isn't. If Center doesn't suit him, continuing to beat that square peg into that round hole won't make it round.
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Any interest in Kaberle?

As a whole his 31 points in 72 games last season doesn't look good, especially combined with his -18 but he put up 22 points in 43 in Montreal. He's not far removed from being an elite point producing d-man.

Smid-Petry
Kaberle-N. Schultz
Whitney-J. Schultz

Wonder what he would cost to acquire.
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Don't think hes the type of defenseman we need, But if it was cheap I would not mind him, How many years left on his deal? I also think he has a NTC.
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Probably not much, but he's close to done, and I would question, somewhat, his willingness to play in Edmonton and the Western Conference at this point.

There are UFAs that are better options then him, imo. Though only just barely.
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Continued: Then it goes down like this from about the 50 second mark......





So nothin' then?
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Kaberle is nothing special.
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He is compared to Potter... I don't think he'd be that bad here. He has 2 more years left. After that, Klefbom takes over... Next year, a defense of

Smid - Petry
Whitney - J. Schultz
N. Schultz - Kaberle
Sutton

Is actually fairly respectable

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07-07-2012, 07:07 PM
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Sign Arnott
Sign Rozsival

Hemsky - Nugent-Hopkins - Eberle
Hall - Gagner - Yakupov
Smyth - Horcoff - Arnott
Eager - Belanger - Jones
Petrell, Hordichuk

Smid - Petry
Whitney - Rozsival
Schultz - Schultz
Sutton

Dubnyk
Khabibulun

Boom

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Maybe a bit OT but it seems like Hjalmarsson is staying in Chicago, just the feeling i get

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If Tomas Kaberle isn't on your no.1 pp unit, he's not adding much to your team. No thanks.

Do we really desperately need another defender? I'm actually looking forward to seeing if Peckham can get back on the track he was 2 years ago when he looked like a solid bottom pairing/PK guy. He's still solid on the PP, but needs to become more effective 5x5.

I see Peckham and I think Matt Greene. Just don't give up or move a defender along that quickly. Peckham is 4 years younger than Greene. You don't really know much about a defenceman until they hit their mid/late-20s. Teddy can turn it around IMO.

Petry-Smid
Schultz-Shultz
Whitney-Peckham
Sutton-Potter

I'm OK with this line-up to start the year. If there's a great trade to be made later then you have to look at it, but see what this group can do first.

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Sign Rozsilav and King.

Hall - RNH - Hemsky
Eager - Gagner - Yakupov
Smyth - Horcoff - Jones
Hordichuk - Belanger - King

Smid - Petry
Rozsilav - J. Schultz
Whitney - N. Schultz

Dubnyk
Khabibulin

Boom!

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Sign Rozsilav and King.

Hall - RNH - Hemsky
Eager - Gagner - Yakupov
Smyth - Horcoff - Jones
Hordichuk - Belanger - King

Smid - Petry
Rozsilav - J. Schultz
Whitney - N. Schultz

Dubnyk
Khabibulin

Boom!
Eager on the second!!?? Really!!?? That's crazy talk!!

No Eberle!??

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Sign Rozsilav and King.

Hall - RNH - Hemsky
Eager - Gagner - Yakupov
Smyth - Horcoff - Jones
Hordichuk - Belanger - King

Smid - Petry
Rozsilav - J. Schultz
Whitney - N. Schultz

Dubnyk
Khabibulin

Boom!



Missing someone are we?

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We can trade Eberle if we get King.

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We can trade Eberle if we get King.
you can't replace Eberle

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you can't replace Eberle
We have mr.Eberle's prototype already in our system but I was thinking about trading mr.Eberle for a larger top-4 winger. If we can't find any it would be mr.Eager.

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We can trade Eberle if we get King.
The Oilers have no reason to get King and if we need to trade someone it will be Hemsky and not Eberle.




Eberle is going nowhere

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We have mr.Eberle's prototype already in our system but I was thinking about trading mr.Eberle for a larger top-4 winger. If we can't find any it would be mr.Eager.
Ben Eager as a top 6 forward?






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We can trade Eberle if we get King.
You might want to put the in your post. People can forget about sarcasm sometimes.

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You might want to put the in your post. People can forget about sarcasm sometimes.
Ya,I don't think glassbangers is being sarcastic.

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If Tomas Kaberle isn't on your no.1 pp unit, he's not adding much to your team. No thanks.

Do we really desperately need another defender? I'm actually looking forward to seeing if Peckham can get back on the track he was 2 years ago when he looked like a solid bottom pairing/PK guy. He's still solid on the PP, but needs to become more effective 5x5.

I see Peckham and I think Matt Greene. Just don't give up or move a defender along that quickly. Peckham is 4 years younger than Greene. You don't really know much about a defenceman until they hit their mid/late-20s. Teddy can turn it around IMO.

Petry-Smid
Schultz-Shultz
Whitney-Peckham
Sutton-Potter

I'm OK with this line-up to start the year. If there's a great trade to be made later then you have to look at it, but see what this group can do first.
Yes we desperately need another defender. At least we do if the Oilers hope to further this rebuild along. Time to start winning hockey games. That's not going to happen with the sieve we have back there right now. Smid is the only person you can count on being a consistent top 4 d-man. Maybe Nick Schultz. Petry still has consistency issues. Whitney can't stay healthy and was awfuly all last year. Justin Schultz has never played an NHL game.

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Yes we desperately need another defender. At least we do if the Oilers hope to further this rebuild along. Time to start winning hockey games. That's not going to happen with the sieve we have back there right now. Smid is the only person you can count on being a consistent top 4 d-man. Maybe Nick Schultz. Petry still has consistency issues. Whitney can't stay healthy and was awfuly all last year. Justin Schultz has never played an NHL game.
If the CBJ get back a defenseman in a Nash trade, maybe a guy like Nikitin becomes available. Decent cap hit, could he be a fit for the Oilers?

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If the CBJ get back a defenseman in a Nash trade, maybe a guy like Nikitin becomes available. Decent cap hit, could he be a fit for the Oilers?
I would most certainly be interested, but I'm not quite sure why Columbus trades him though. 32 points in 54 games and he's on a nice contract for the next 2 seasons. Nothing wrong with having depth at defense. If I was Columbus I'd be holding onto the good ones.

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I would most certainly be interested, but I'm not quite sure why Columbus trades him though. 32 points in 54 games and he's on a nice contract for the next 2 seasons. Nothing wrong with having depth at defense. If I was Columbus I'd be holding onto the good ones.
If they get a defenseman back in a Nash trade, they will have an excess of d men and they will be spending a good chunk of their cap on their d.

Murray, Wiz, Tyutin, Nikitin, J. Johnson, Aucoin, +1

That's almost 22.5m without the salary of the salary of the d man from the Nash trade.
They also have Moore and Savard in the picture too.

They have a need for forwards and something would have to give on their blueline.

I think Nikitin might be a good fit here, $2.15m cap hit, can put up some points and decent defensively, only -5 on a bad CLB team. Brings in another Russian for Yakupov too.
Not sure what we would have to give up for him though.

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We have mr.Eberle's prototype already in our system but I was thinking about trading mr.Eberle for a larger top-4 winger. If we can't find any it would be mr.Eager.


he is a former first rounder

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I would be a BIG fan of Nikita Nikitin being traded here.

Something around Hemsky for Nikitin? Someone else work out the pieces

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Man... we could really use a guy on the Oilers like that Eager guy up above.

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Just looking at the NHL stats page for the Oilers.. it's kind of ironic they have 10 Oilers listed as LW's...

Taylor Hall
Ryan Smyth
Ryan Jones
Ben Eager
Lennart Petrell
Magnus Paajarvi
Teemu Hartikainen
Linus Omark
Darcy Hordichuk
Philippe Cornet

and just 2 RW's listed...

Jordan Eberle
Ales Hemsky

...yet the RW is considered deeper than the LW for the Oilers.

Add another 10 prospects and they may finally balance the sides out.

Of course adding Yakupov to RW certainly tips the scale on that right side.

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If the CBJ get back a defenseman in a Nash trade, maybe a guy like Nikitin becomes available. Decent cap hit, could he be a fit for the Oilers?
The just resigned him, he's not.

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Arnott would be a nice addition to the team, as he would give us the size that we need, I think I would sign Roz to a 1 yr contract. I would make the 1 yr a bit of an over payment to make it worth his while.

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Arnott would be a nice addition to the team, as he would give us the size that we need, I think I would sign Roz to a 1 yr contract. I would make the 1 yr a bit of an over payment to make it worth his while.
Maybe, or make a push for Getzlaf if he gets there?

Actually, frankly speaking, if the Oilers can make some "gains" this year, as in more competitive and show even more they are headed in a positive direction, maybe a stop gap at #2 center makes alot of sense, because then they can head into next offseason and find someone who will be a major upgrade and contributor.

Some of the names that will be UFA centers next year, as it stands now.

Getzlaf
Zajac
Roy
Cullen
Fisher
Antropov
Weiss
Zubrus
Ribeiro
Cervenka


That's a pretty good group and they might be in a position to bring one of those guys in as the "answer" as a #2 center for maybe 3-5 years.

*I know Cullen and Zubrus aren't exactly young*

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