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Yannick Weber to Detroit?

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07-07-2012, 11:49 PM
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According to this site, who has an history of pretty good information about transactions, Yannick Weber (of the Montreal Canadiens) is being traded to the Detroit Red Wings in exchange for an unknown return.
They are amongst the worst of all the fakes out there. He takes rumours from elsewhere and makes it his own. Don't be fooled.

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07-08-2012, 12:00 AM
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*******... I HOPE it either isn't true, or, I hope that once the trade is confirmed, the return makes most Wings fans & HF posters cringe...

Weber is much, MUCH better than his reputation is around here, and much better than what the Montreal coaching staff perceived last season.

within the next 2-3 years, I have no doubt he's going to emerge as a quality top-4 PMD, and from there he could quite likely progress into a quality/all-star caliber top-2 pmd... think Brian Rafalski...

that's the kind of upside this kid has.

that's the caliber of player he was as a junior, and while his NHL experience hasn't been "quick" progression-wise, he's shown to have the kind of composure in pressure situations that all "great"* players have.


If the Red Wings land Weber for a later pick or some depth prospect, it will be a coup for them, and given their roster/organizational-culture, I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes obvious as soon as this year... but if not, within 2-3 seasons, people will look back and view it as another "genius" move by the Wings, and bonehead move by the habs.




*composure, or "performance on demand", is a far greater indicator of a player capable of reaching his full potential than any other indicator, imo. It's a matter of making the most of what they have, and over time, those who do, have much better careers than those that don't... I firmly believe that Weber is the type of athlete who will.

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07-08-2012, 12:01 AM
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Yeah, he was great at the point last time we had him.
Don't have to tell me that he is one of my least favorite players to ever put on the winged wheel. But that is where they are going to use him, we all know that. If they bump him up to the first unit we can watch him and Kronwall fall into each other as they both pinch at the wrong time.

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07-08-2012, 12:35 AM
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The hate has just kind of rolled down hill on him with the Detroit fan-base.

The fact at the mid-point in the season he was the second worst regular center at draws only ahead of 18 year old rookie RNH certainly didn't help him with a lot of people.
No it hasn't.
There isn't much feeling either way about Emmerton.

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No it hasn't.
There isn't much feeling either way about Emmerton.
Oh please CB, there are tons of people on the Wings board saying give him away for a low draft pick. I know some of us aren't ready but he is about as popular as Big E, Franzen and Hudler was. He constantly has hate thrown his way. I think we need to look at him on the wing. Unless he makes drastic improvements in the dot and does a little better job of helping his linemates be better. Right now he just looks more comfortable in the wing position.

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Oh please CB, there are tons of people on the Wings board saying give him away for a low draft pick. I know some of us aren't ready but he is about as popular as Big E, Franzen and Hudler was. He constantly has hate thrown his way. I think we need to look at him on the wing. Unless he makes drastic improvements in the dot and does a little better job of helping his linemates be better. Right now he just looks more comfortable in the wing position.
That doesn't make them "haters."
Emmerton is a very non-descript player. VEry few people hate or like him

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That doesn't make them "haters."
That could be on the people that are reasonable about him, or provide actual reasons like you do when you post on people. We might not always agree but rarely are they one liners about so and so sucks, it generally has reasons or some explanation. But Emmerton gets an awful lot of vitriol when people post about him.

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That could be on the people that are reasonable about him, or provide actual reasons like you do when you post on people. We might not always agree but rarely are they one liners about so and so sucks, it generally has reasons or some explanation. But Emmerton gets an awful lot of vitriol when people post about him.
I see vitriol for Hudler and Franzen and Ericsson and Quincey. Not for 5-minute a night guys who don't get the opportunity to show anything. Not much, anyway,

I think Emmerton is going to be a decent NHLer. It's going to take time and opportunity.

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07-08-2012, 05:52 AM
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If they don't give Brendan Smith playing time (and he's better than Weber) then what's the point of trading for Y Weber?
There's not one.

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Well they need someone to replace Lidstron

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TBH I don't see the Habs actively shopping any defensemen right now. Sure we have lots of Defensive depth with Tinordi, Ellis, and Beaulieu coming to Hamilton this season but we still only have 8 everyday NHL quality defensemen on our roster at this point and one of them, Markov, is still a huge question mark. Would be terrible timing to trade one of them (Diaz or Weber) before the season starts.

Add in that Kaberle is a possible deadline day deal and the 3 prospects listed about could still be 2 - 3 years away from being ready for an everyday NHL roster spot.

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That site is terrible. If Weber were to be dealt there it would probably cost a 2nd, or 3rd.

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That doesn't make them "haters."
Emmerton is a very non-descript player. VEry few people hate or like him
OH come on! He is one of the most whined about players on the team, simply because he gets into the lineup and Jan Smurfsak doesn't. Pretty annoying since he is the more versatile and useful player for the 4th line role.

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Please don't give any credibility to that site. They know nothing and are just following the Eklund model and push it to the extreme. Not worth wasting any time or giving them any hits. In fact, I would recommend closing this thread and quick.

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It could make sense for Detroit, and Mursak would be the upper end of what he could fetch in a trade. But Weber+Nattinen for Cleary+Aubry?

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It could make sense for Detroit, and Mursak would be the upper end of what he could fetch in a trade. But Weber+Nattinen for Cleary+Aubry?
... That's downgrading at center for Montreal.

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It could make sense for Detroit, and Mursak would be the upper end of what he could fetch in a trade. But Weber+Nattinen for Cleary+Aubry?
I'd jump all over Mursak for Weber, since Mursak is destined for waivers its a win win. I don't know if Montreal would be so keen, though.....are they not considered small/soft up front already?

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Weber has hockey chicken legs. Falling down because he got bodychecked? Oh, you bet ya that has happened. lol Detroit would never want such a one-dimensional player.

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Weber has hockey chicken legs. Falling down because he got bodychecked? Oh, you bet ya that has happened. lol Detroit would never want such a one-dimensional player.
I'm sure that if the price is right, someone will want Weber just based on his potential.

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mursak and a 4th rd pick

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These are the type of guys Detroit is going to take a chance on and hope they hit on. Another guy would be Cam Barker. Guys wh haven't lived up to their potential.

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I think Weber would thrive in Detroit's system. He wouldn't be relied upon for big minutes and he would benefit from a great coaching staff and management. Two years ago he was pushed into big minutes and did really well at first and then it took its toll on him and he sort of fizzled out. If he was to be gradually given more minutes I could actually see him playing 15-20 minutes a night with some good PP time and making good use of all his time. It would also depend which partner he would get because he's more of the offensive type, if he's on a line with someone who's hanging a bit further back he'll exceed expectations.

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I could see Weber becoming Mark Streit 2.0 on the right team.
He doesn't have the finess and the creativity of a Streit. He's underated defensivly as he hasn't done many mistakes and fights hard in the corners, even though he doesn't win all his battles. He has a very good shot on the point, seriously he could be a weapon there, but Montreal can't insert him in its line-up because we already have Markov, Subban, Diaz and Kaberle who are puck movers, they all play better hockey/have more experience than him at this point in his career.

He's realy a powerplay specialist that will not hurt you as 6th defencemen, for the moment as he has all the tools to become a good defencemen in this league.

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He's too soft, can't handle NHL players in corners or in front. I'd be surprised if he wasn't back in switzerland for 2013-2014 season.

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He's too soft, can't handle NHL players in corners or in front. I'd be surprised if he wasn't back in switzerland for 2013-2014 season.
He's not soft at all, he's small but he's willing to battle with guys a lot bigger than him and never backs down. He's not the best defensively but if you put him with some bigger guys he'd look a lot better, last year he looked bad when we had Diaz and soft plugs like Campoli and Kaberle all in our lineup at the same time.

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