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THIS!! Make it happen, Slats.
Lol imo ducks move one and keep the other

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That doesn't qualify as a legit source guys.

Please hold off until someone legit re-tweets it.
Doesnt Lagreca qualify as legit?

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If they include MDZ in this deal, you gotta assume management trusts Erixon to step into the lineup this year and contribute.

I don't know how I'd feel about this deal. Jack Johnson or possibly Tyutin (?) would have to be coming back as well.

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If the Rangers coughed up that much for Nash I would be pissed.

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The cap situation might be helped if another roster playe goes with Staal. Even without, the cap difference over the next three years amounts to approx. $4m, $3.5m, $2.25 million. Give or take several hundred thousand. Over that time we will also lose Gaborik's contract and possibly a few more if young guys push vets.

Make no mistake, the salary is a challenge. But Weber's age is thing that puts it over the top for me. If he were three of four years older, I'd probably be a bit more hesitant.
Very good points regarding the contract situation. When you consider Staals next contract at 6 per - I'd certainly rather be paying Weber the 7.5-8 per. Plus he's locked in for the duration of his prime where Staals may want to test the market and/or possibly want to go to Carolina.

I guess it boils down to what the packages become for Weber vs Nash and who Sather feels gives this team a better chance to win. If Staal, Erixon, Dubinsky, first, get it done for Weber then I think you have to do it. Dubinsky and Staals cap hit would off-set Weber anyway at this point.

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Its a pretty interesting idea, but would totally gut the team
Not necessarily. Stepan and Dubinsky would be going the other way for Getz and Ryan essentially and you would be able to move 2 of the following 3 along with them:

MDZ, Erixon, Thomas, JT

Plus you include some picks ... it can work, and makes sense.

That is fair and does not gut the team.

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Doesnt Lagreca qualify as legit?
I'd hold off until one of Dreger, McKenzie, Lebrun, et al re-tweets it personally to be on the safe side.

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If they include MDZ in this deal, you gotta assume management trusts Erixon to step into the lineup this year and contribute.

I don't know how I'd feel about this deal. Jack Johnson or possibly Tyutin (?) would have to be coming back as well.
Toots coming back would make it stomachable.. dont see the logic in JJ for DZ.. kind of a wash there, rather just keep those 2 out of it...

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The problem with trading Stepan in any deal for Ryan or Nash is that you are losing a second line center in the deal, but if you can build a package that brings back a second line center like Getzlaf (since he is an UFA in 2013) it makes total sense.

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This is TOTAL speculation ... HOWEVER it does make sense from a hockey POV and it would not "gut" the core.

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Toots coming back would make it stomachable.. dont see the logic in JJ for DZ.. kind of a wash there, rather just keep those 2 out of it...
Hes signed at a 4.5 mill cap hit for the next six seasons.

No thank you.

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I'd hold off until one of Dreger, McKenzie, Lebrun, et al re-tweets it personally to be on the safe side.
Whats the rumor?

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Not necessarily. Stepan and Dubinsky would be going the other way for Getz and Ryan essentially and you would be able to move 2 of the following 3 along with them:

MDZ, Erixon, Thomas, JT

Plus you include some picks ... it can work, and makes sense.

That is fair and does not gut the team.
Yeah, that's a good point. Wonder if ANA would bite... does set them up for when they plan on competing a few years down the road doesnt it.

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Hes signed at a 4.5 mill cap hit for the next six seasons.

No thank you.
Ouch, wasn't aware.

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I love Marc Staal. Own his jersey. The first 1st round pick to truly live up to the hype after a looking drought in the early 00s.

But if you can get Shea Weber, potentially the best defenseman in the game over the next 5-10 years, with a Staal + futures package it is a no brainier IMO. If the Jordan Staal pipe dream was still alive I would be a bit more hesitant, however not only is it not alive it is also a potentially serious risk at this point.

You want to improve the PP? Weber will achieve that in spades. Our OP failed to gain and maintain zone time because teams could afford to play us so aggressively. They will have to think twice with Weber's bomb and lateral mobility.

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who would play 3C if that deal was to go through

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Hes signed at a 4.5 mill cap hit for the next six seasons.

No thank you.
6 seasons!?

Cap hit isn't terrible. But six seasons is.

Would be risky.

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Trade DZ and you have no offense from the back end lol. More scoring woes for the team upcoming. I'll be pissed.

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Were not trading for both ryan and getzlaf, lets keep it realistic and sane here.

Sather does not want to deal the youth.

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who would play 3C if that deal was to go through
btw we should definitely offer sheet MDZ if we trade him to Columbus lol

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Yeah, that's a good point. Wonder if ANA would bite... does set them up for when they plan on competing a few years down the road doesnt it.
Yep, it's not like you are trading for washed up guys, you are getting a 30G winger, and a first line center. Like I said it depends on the package and where the organization feels Erixon is at ... if he can step right in and take top 4 mins, or if the ducks view Erixon as a top 4 dman, it would make the ducks younger, cheaper, more athletic ... and we become deeper, and most importantly stay young.

In reality the move is ducks get young and cheap and we get young/prime ready to win with a 3-5 year window. Actually the more I think about it ... it makes more and more sense.

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whats the rumor

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who would play 3C if that deal was to go through
Boyle I assume unless slats has something else lined up

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Were not trading for both ryan and getzlaf, lets keep it realistic and sane here.

Sather does not want to deal the youth.
I know where you are coming from and I was on the fence about it until I started to look at the total package and where each team could benefit at the end ... and honestly it makes MORE sense than just giving up what we are rumored to for Nash.

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Mods delete the rumor yet keep posts by mods discussing it.

What the hell was it?
Dubi AA mdz and 1st for Nash

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