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Sign Claude Giroux to a 10+ year contract extension ASAP

View Poll Results: Is it time?
Yes -- new provisions in the next CBA could be scary 35 72.92%
No -- too much risk 13 27.08%
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07-08-2012, 05:02 PM
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Sigh. It'd be one thing if this season came out of nowhere for Giroux. However, if you've been paying attention for the last three years, you'd know the opinion people espouse about him being one of the best players in the game isn't based "on one season, one playoff series, and your coach mistakenly proclaiming you the best player in the world." Oh, and by the way, on that day and in that series, Giroux was the best player in the world.

And here's the best part: Giroux is only going to get better. I guarantee you -- yes, guarantee -- he scores 40 goals this upcoming season.
He took 73 more shots last year than the previous one, and only scored 3 more goals. Before we see 40, can we see 30 first?

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07-08-2012, 05:23 PM
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He took 73 more shots last year than the previous one, and only scored 3 more goals. Before we see 40, can we see 30 first?
Well technically you'd have to, since 30 is one of the steps on the way to 40.


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Giroux lobbied hard for Jagr to be resigned. Angry might not be the right word, but disappointed at the very least.
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07-08-2012, 05:43 PM
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If he's getting signed for 10+ years no way in hell is he getting close to 8 million a year

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07-08-2012, 05:48 PM
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If he's getting signed for 10+ years no way in hell is he getting close to 8 million a year
7.5 x 13 . . . . that's the market price for a franchise forward, and I doubt it goes down even if the cap does roll back a bit. Thanks Minnie....damn you.

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I don't think 8m per year is bad for Giroux

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He took 73 more shots last year than the previous one, and only scored 3 more goals. Before we see 40, can we see 30 first?
Sure... on the way to 40.

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Giroux's shooting percentage was down over 3% this past season, so more ice time with the same number of shots and a better percentage, he could knock on the door of 40.

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ill go on record rite now and say Roo plays all his most important years in Philly.

not worried about him or his contract. Snider will pay what is required

exactly. they know this kid is elite mentally and talent wise. no issues with the parents which is always a +

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I don't think 8m per year is bad for Giroux
It's a decent number for him... if he has another season like this one, he can easily get that and maybe a bit more via offer sheet.

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07-09-2012, 10:39 PM
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Giroux's shooting percentage was down over 3% this past season, so more ice time with the same number of shots and a better percentage, he could knock on the door of 40.
No ****, you could say that about any player.

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07-09-2012, 11:06 PM
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No ****, you could say that about any player.
No you couldn't. Giroux was in the 97th percentile of NHL players in shots taken last year.


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07-11-2012, 02:04 PM
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I hope the Flyers do sign Giroux to a long term contract, doesn't have to be 10 years but somewhere in that ballpark.

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I think G needs one more season (generally speaking) under his belt before we even think of a long term deal. I can hear the excuses already: He didn't have a winger, he got hurt, you can't expect him to put up those numbers every year, etc...

Claude is a good player. If he wants to be a great player, then in my opinion, this year, with less "talent" surrounding him he can make his mark.

Huge G fan but but I can admit there was a huge bandwagon of people creaming their pants over his play this year. I've had great years in hockey, life and business. I've had bad years. Depends on a lot of ****.

Will g live up to expectations? Who knows!

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07-13-2012, 04:28 AM
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Getting star players signed to good cap hits really allows you freedom to stack your roster. If you are a small market team like Columbus or Tampa Bay you pretty much have to pay huge contracts to your players. The flyers had Richards and Carter locked up to sub 6 cap hits and JVR to 4.25. Under a 70 million cap that is only going up that pretty much give you an opportunity to have 3 scoring lines. Getting Roux signed long term is essential and the lesser the cap hit the better. I dont see him signing for anything less than 7 mill for the long term.

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I think G needs one more season (generally speaking) under his belt before we even think of a long term deal. I can hear the excuses already: He didn't have a winger, he got hurt, you can't expect him to put up those numbers every year, etc...

Claude is a good player. If he wants to be a great player, then in my opinion, this year, with less "talent" surrounding him he can make his mark.

Huge G fan but but I can admit there was a huge bandwagon of people creaming their pants over his play this year. I've had great years in hockey, life and business. I've had bad years. Depends on a lot of ****.

Will g live up to expectations? Who knows!
Well, the thing is... there are assumptions that the next CBA is going to have a contract length limit, so it would have to be something done sooner rather than later.

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+ There is talk that the new CBA will make cap hits equal to the current year salary. If that goes into effect, it means a team with lots of cap space could easily send us a devastating poison pill offer sheet in 2014.
The four extra 1st rounders we'd get for not matching wouldn't be bad though

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The four extra 1st rounders we'd get for not matching wouldn't be bad though
No, that would be terrible.

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I think G needs one more season (generally speaking) under his belt before we even think of a long term deal. I can hear the excuses already: He didn't have a winger, he got hurt, you can't expect him to put up those numbers every year, etc...

Claude is a good player. If he wants to be a great player, then in my opinion, this year, with less "talent" surrounding him he can make his mark.

Huge G fan but but I can admit there was a huge bandwagon of people creaming their pants over his play this year. I've had great years in hockey, life and business. I've had bad years. Depends on a lot of ****.

Will g live up to expectations? Who knows!
Thats two seasons and three post seasons where Giroux has been elite. This isn't just some flash in the pan. If he had a different winger to Jagr in the second half of the season, I bet he would of hit 100.

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Does anyone genuinely think that Giroux is going to regress?!?

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Does anyone genuinely think that Giroux is going to regress?!?
Not after "The Shift."

He may come to my house and beat the peanut butter out of me.

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Does anyone genuinely think that Giroux is going to regress?!?
Depends on his wingers. We assume Hartnell will play LW but who will play RW? If his RW isn't that good the opposing team will target Roo more than normal because the other guys isn't a threat.

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Depends on his wingers. We assume Hartnell will play LW but who will play RW? If his RW isn't that good the opposing team will target Roo more than normal because the other guys isn't a threat.
There's a lot of options, Voracek, Schenn, hell even Briere.

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Does anyone genuinely think that Giroux is going to regress?!?
I don't think it would be terribly surprising if he did. Players like Carter, Richards, Perry, Parise, Nash, Getzlaf all had career years when they were around Giroux's age and have yet to repeat their career highs.

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I can't see Roo regressing. I feel like he had a great year but it just feels like it was a step to even bigger years ahead

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Does anyone genuinely think that Giroux is going to regress?!?
It's entirely possible. Not many players notch back to back 90+ seasons.

I could see Giroux dropping to about 80 points next season by no fault of his own.


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Depends on his wingers. We assume Hartnell will play LW but who will play RW? If his RW isn't that good the opposing team will target Roo more than normal because the other guys isn't a threat.

This is not the reason why, however. Jagr was completely ineffective the second half of last season, and Briere, Voracek and possibly even Schenn could quite possibly be more effective in that spot.

EDIT: And also, think about what you're saying. Defenders are gonna leave Voracek or Briere open to "target Giroux more"? The reason why Giroux is so effective is that he can make such good use of his linemates...


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