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Breaking news: insurance companies will no longer cover the Blue Jays...

So. Who wants avatars?

Rotation
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Ricky RomeroAaron LaffeyHenderson AlvarezCarlos VillanuevaBrett Cecil


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Kelly JohnsonYunel EscobarRajai DavisJ.P. Arencibia

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24 image per post limit means that there's a bit of overflow from post #1

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the "No TV dives for Anthony Gose" edition

carry on with futures game discussion and everything else that's relevant.

I'll be putting in all the front end stuff shortly.

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Janssen for MVP. He's my new avatar.

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rasmus is my mvp, so glad he has turned it around and showing the potential he was showing in st. louis

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A little late to the show. I've had him as mine for about a week or so. LOL

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so after all the movement and such there isn't much difference between the teams position at the AS break compared to last year.
except half the pitchers are out with injuries.
i don't hold out much hope for these blue jays, I think they are leading people on with smoke and mirrors.
Bautista is still the best around though.

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Gose's catch today from the futurestars game

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so after all the movement and such there isn't much difference between the teams position at the AS break compared to last year.
except half the pitchers are out with injuries.

i don't hold out much hope for these blue jays, I think they are leading people on with smoke and mirrors.
Bautista is still the best around though.
That is a big difference. This year's team roughly equalled last year's team at the halfway point even though their pitching staff has been decimated and they've gotten sub-par performances from Romero and Alvarez. Encarnacion is having a big season and looks comfortable at 1st, Rasmus is the guy who we expected to get from the trade, Lawrie is coming around after a slower than expected start (perhaps those expectations were unfair). If we still had Morrow and Hutchison healthy and Santos healthy and not all the ridiculous # of issues they've gone through this season, the team would almost certainly be better than they are to this point.


In other news, I've re-sorted the avatars on page 1 to be more current in terms of who's up/down/hurt and roles. Hopefully I'll have avys for Laffey, Cecil, Chavez, etc. soon.

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Thanks Nemesis! I cant put off the Rasmus love anymore!

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i don't hold out much hope for these blue jays, I think they are leading people on with smoke and mirrors.
What are smoke and mirrors hiding? The fact that at the start of the season AA said the Jays aren't pushing for a playoff spot yet?

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I'm going to use Hutch!

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Is Gose out of the game?

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That is a big difference. This year's team roughly equalled last year's team at the halfway point even though their pitching staff has been decimated and they've gotten sub-par performances from Romero and Alvarez. Encarnacion is having a big season and looks comfortable at 1st, Rasmus is the guy who we expected to get from the trade, Lawrie is coming around after a slower than expected start (perhaps those expectations were unfair). If we still had Morrow and Hutchison healthy and Santos healthy and not all the ridiculous # of issues they've gone through this season, the team would almost certainly be better than they are to this point.

In other news, I've re-sorted the avatars on page 1 to be more current in terms of who's up/down/hurt and roles. Hopefully I'll have avys for Laffey, Cecil, Chavez, etc. soon.

and, not like its going to be easy, the jays are just 2.5 games back of a playoff spot

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so after all the movement and such there isn't much difference between the teams position at the AS break compared to last year.
except half the pitchers are out with injuries.
i don't hold out much hope for these blue jays, I think they are leading people on with smoke and mirrors.
Bautista is still the best around though.
You really need to follow a season closely to realize just how good things actually have been. Many fans understood this as more of a growing season with a chance at the post season more than we are ready to compete now. Before the season really even got going we lost Litsch/McGowan and Santos. That's our closer one of two long arms and our 5th starter. That's a big loss. Our offence started the season very slowly and our pitching started very strong. When our bats picked up our arms slowed down and started to struggle. We then lost 3 more starting pitchers. We had 3 pitchers throwing it what could have been their first full season in the majors. That's insane and they still did well. I can illustrate some of the positives from the season so far for you.

Rasmus has found his game again and has been lights out good for us.

Lawrie has taken on the role of leadoff hitter and has been hitting great there. His defence is also proving much better than we could have hoped for.

EE is having a break out season and took the role of 1B from Lind and has looked very good there when he needed to be.

Lind struggled badly to start the season and was demoted to AAA. Since his return he is hitting like his silver slugger year. That's a very very good thing.

Jose started to season horrible hitting under .200 for a good long while with no power. He's now on pace for another huge hr season and broke a jays record for hr's in a month in June

Morrow after a rough year last year has looked like our ace this year and has pitched unbelievably.

Hutchinson/Alvarez Both have shown they are major league pitchers and very good ones at that. Drabek started like the pitcher we all hoped he would be but tailed off badly before his injury

Jansen took a closer role that no one could hold down after the loss of Santos and has been insane great and hasn't blown a save yet in I believe 13 tries now. That's great.

Gomes and Cooper both came up and proved they can be big leaguers. Gomes IMO will be playing off the bench next year.

Oliver has been lights out as well out of the pen and a great signing.

CV/Laffey have been saviours to our bullpen pitching well on an emergency basis in a starters role for the jays.

Frasor started the season poorly but has come back to what were use to seeing from him

Now it's not all great and sunny.

Romero is having a horrible season and looks very from the ace of any team.

Yunel is having a tough year at the bat

JP still strikeouts out a ton and hasn't really progressed offensively or defensively IMO

Thames lost his ability to hit and is back in AAA and Snider was hurt when it happened and lost the chance to be called up like most believed he would have been. (Davis has been pretty good in their absence however)

Drabek as previously stated started walking a ton of batters again and was likely on his way to a demotion.

Cordero who should have been solid depth as protection against injury to Santos has been a miserable failure.

We are a team in transition that will go through growing pains. It isn't a finished project but one that looks to have a nice future ahead of it. Our pitching depth is years away but we have some good guys pretty close to ready positionally that should help the team themselves or to get us more pieces to fill out the puzzle. It's a waiting game now.

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I cant wait for the next month, we will likely see Hechevarria and Gose in the final couple of months and give them some badly needed experience so we can rely on one/both of them to start the year with the big club. Also we need them to get 150AB to take away their rookie eligibility.

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Gose's catch today from the futurestars game
Best part of the catch was the presence of mind of attempting to throw out the runner at 1st. It was a pretty good throw, and even though I don't think it ever had a chance of doubling up, it at least shows that Gose has a good baseball IQ and knew what the situation was. The arm looks decent, speed looks decent, bat looks decent....but the IQ looks great.

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Best part of the catch was the presence of mind of attempting to throw out the runner at 1st. It was a pretty good throw, and even though I don't think it ever had a chance of doubling up, it at least shows that Gose has a good baseball IQ and knew what the situation was. The arm looks decent, speed looks decent, bat looks decent....but the IQ looks great.
He has a plus arm

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I cant wait for the next month, we will likely see Hechevarria and Gose in the final couple of months and give them some badly needed experience so we can rely on one/both of them to start the year with the big club. Also we need them to get 150AB to take away their rookie eligibility.
I'd love to see both in the bigs, but the trouble of how we manage their field playing time remains. Rasmus has never played anywhere except CF for the Jays, and same is true for Escobar at SS. Neither Gose or Hech can instantly move an established MLB player (and borderline star when it comes to Rasmus) to a new position.

To me, if you are planning on starting Gose and Hech next year, you need to slowly transition Rasmus to LF/RF and Escobar to 2B. I don't really want either of them to get complacent in an easier position since both of them have Plus Defense as one of their main skill.

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He has a plus arm
I've seen one throw from him on a big stage. If scouts say Plus arm than that's great, but I was only assessing what I saw.

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I'd love to see both in the bigs, but the trouble of how we manage their field playing time remains. Rasmus has never played anywhere except CF for the Jays, and same is true for Escobar at SS. Neither Gose or Hech can instantly move an established MLB player (and borderline star when it comes to Rasmus) to a new position.

To me, if you are planning on starting Gose and Hech next year, you need to slowly transition Rasmus to LF/RF and Escobar to 2B. I don't really want either of them to get complacent in an easier position since both of them have Plus Defense as one of their main skill.
Theres a real chance Escobar is traded at the deadline.

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Theres a real chance Escobar is traded at the deadline.
and that Gose makes his big league debut in LF. So we might have both situations cleared up.

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He has a plus arm
And speed.

Btw on the arm discussion, thought he pitched in highschool as well? The kid throws like low 90s heat.

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and that Gose makes his big league debut in LF. So we might have both situations cleared up.
I really think (hope) that Bautista transitions to like 1B (or 3B...probably 1B though) or something next season. Put Gose (and his arm) in RF.

If Snider can hit in the bigs, he's @ LF, Rasmus CF, Gose in RF. EE plays DH, Bats at 1B (or you move EE if need be).

If Gose replaces Bautista you go from a negative dWAR to what could potentially be way plus, while you keep all of your quality offence in the lineup (Lind would be the one to go).

Do the Jays have anyone in the system who can sub in for Johnson when he is inevitably moved/walks this offseason? If Yunel gets dealt, then Hech will be playing SS guaranteed...

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And speed.

Btw on the arm discussion, thought he pitched in highschool as well? The kid throws like low 90s heat.
and defensive acumen (as opposed to someone like Rajai who has blazing speed but takes awful routes)

and low 90s? I thought I heard he could throw 97 as a pitcher.

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Anthony Gose is a lefty swinging (and throwing) athletic centre field prospect who was drafted by the Philadelphia Phillies in the 2nd round of the 2008 MLB draft. He was taken as a young, raw high school kid who was also a promising pitching prospect at the time, armed with a 97-mph heater. Gose had a desire to play every day and had lingering shoulder problems so he was drafted with the expectation of becoming a position player.
http://aleastbound.com/2012/03/15/ja...-anthony-gose/

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