My point was Toronto's support of teams outside the Leafs and Raptors is middle of the road for its size.
Well if you only want to look at the big four leagues, then I guess. I mean, shame on Toronto for not supporting the Jays the way the Yankees or Red Sox are supported. I mean, let's ignore that the Jays have been in existence since 1977 while those teams were around since 1901..but yeah, small details I guess.
If you want to look at the BIG picture of sports in Toronto, you can't ignore that Toronto has several professional sports leagues and are among the top valuable franchises in their respective league except for baseball. I can't take you seriously if you're telling me that Toronto's support for sports is middle of the road for its size when the support has made so many Toronto franchises so valuable to the leagues they play in. What more could you want from a city?
Your answer to this thread was New York City. You claimed they sell out for ALL sports. Factually incorrect. New York Red Bulls of the MLS don't sell out all of their games. They're team value is worth less than that of Toronto FC despite being in the league a decade longer. For the purpose of your argument, should we all pretend that the New York Islanders are not a NY team?
Boston is right now the top sports city. Toronto the best hockey city.
Not. Montreal lives and breathes hockey. Toronto has baseball, basketball and hockey and is a great sports town but hockey is the be and end all in Montreal. New York is by far the best sports town. 2 basketball teams, 2 baseball teams 2 football teams and a great hockey team.
Last edited by Saintpatrick: 07-08-2012 at 07:39 PM.
Outside of supporting the Leafs Toronto sports fans can be fickle. Supported the Jays when they were winning/when the new Skydome was the place to be, have not supported them very well since. Worst supporters/fanbase in the CFL as well, yes it's the CFL
Thats not true at all, especially considering half of MSG is Corporate Seating. The Yankees, Rangers and Giants have some of the weakest sellout crowds Ive been to, especially for such a huge market.
Knicks sellouts when theyre good, are by far the best crowd in the NBA. Jets fans make WAY more noise than Giants fans do (Im fan of neither team. Raiders..) and Ive never been to an Islander game so I cant speak for that.
Devils of course, mostly weak crowds throughout the season except for division games. The Nets were selling tix for like...$2 so yeah..
The NY Metro Area really doesnt live up to the hype of the marketplace. A massve amount of fairweather fashion-fans (half those yankee hats are just for style).
And it might bother NY/NJ folks to hear this, but Philly is a WAAAAY better sports town than New York is. Its not even close, really.
I think that title goes to Raptor fans. NBA playoffs in Toronto is electric. Not to mention the OKC crowd this past NBA playoffs was off the hook.
Last edited by 11Alfredsson: 07-08-2012 at 07:57 PM.
This was always stated and written about so many times I guess it just became accepted. I don't care how many links you provide, I lived in Toronto during those years and it just wasn't true.
For years and years four of us would walk up ten minutes before game time without tickets. We'd have a mob of scalpers all fighting with each other over how much lower than face value they would sell us tickets. Greys, reds or golds, didn't matter, you could get them for a song. It was the exact same thing for the playoffs too.
I'm not knocking the leaf market, it's fantastic, but they did not sell out and it was very easy to get tickets in those days.
Edmonton has sold out Oilers games for five years straight while being out of the playoffs and at the bottom of the standings much of that time. In this city we pack the prospect development camp in July, have a good turn out at training camp and sports radio is talking hockey 12 months of the year. You can talk Oilers with just about anyone at any time in the city and many people have no problem with their tax dollars being used to partly fund a new arena.
On top of that, we were getting 10,000+ out to major junior playoff games.