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07-08-2012, 10:54 PM
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Really sad story, honestly. He's a joke around here, but he really would have been top 10 year in and year out.

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07-08-2012, 10:58 PM
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Ricky was amazing. That 06-07 year, Ricky had em in 6th place before he got injured in Montreal on that pokecheck. 6th place! and that team was pretty freaking brutal, that was all him.

His puck handling skills sort of got him into more trouble than it was worth tbh. The great thing about Ricky was his athleticism. He wasn't one of those goalies who cover as much net as possible and let the puck hit them; he was aggressive, and athletic, nobody was quicker post to post. Very similar to Marty Brodeur in that respect imo.

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07-08-2012, 10:59 PM
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even in his first full season (05-06), we never got to really see what he could do:

2006/09/12 Re-signed as a restricted free agent by the New York Islanders to a 15-year contract.
2006/01/12 Missed 5 games (sprained left knee).
2005/12/31 Sprained left knee, day-to-day.
2005/12/30 Knee injury, left Friday's game.
2005/11/03 Missed 1 game (bruised knee).
2005/11/01 Bruised knee, day-to-day.
2005/10/19 Missed 1 game (mild concussion).
2005/10/14 Mild concussion, day-to-day.
2005/10/13 Mild concussion, left Thursday's game.
2005/09/07 Re-signed as a restricted free agent by the New York Islanders to a one-year contract.

second season it just got worse

2007/04/14 Missed the last 7 games of the regular season and Game 1 of Round One against the Buffalo Sabres (headache).
2007/03/27 Headache, day-to-day.
2007/03/20 Missed 2 games (neck injury).
2007/03/15 Neck injury, day-to-day.
2006/12/07 Missed 1 game (lower body injury).
2006/12/05 Lower body injury, day-to-day.
2006/10/21 Missed 3 games (groin).
2006/10/14 Groin, day-to-day.
2006/09/12 Re-signed as a restricted free agent by the New York Islanders to a 15-year contract.


and all downhill from there.

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07-08-2012, 11:01 PM
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Martin Brodeur is the best puck handling goalie of all-time, so DiPietro wouldn't have been the best puck handling goalie in the league by a huge margin. That being said, DiPietro had a ton of potential, and it's a shame he never met it.
Turco handled the puck better than Brodeur could ever dream of.

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07-08-2012, 11:03 PM
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Top-5 without a doubt.

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07-08-2012, 11:12 PM
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Turco handled the puck better than Brodeur could ever dream of.
No ... just no. Turco was a very, very good puck handling goalie, but Brodeur is simply the best of all-time in that regard. He's like a third defenseman out there.

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07-08-2012, 11:16 PM
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If not for injuries, I think that he could have been at the very least a consistent #1 goalie for the Islanders. Remember, he did play in an All-Star game when healthy, so he isn't a true bust. Rather, he's in the Gord Kluzak category of "what if he could stay healthy?".

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07-08-2012, 11:18 PM
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He was nothing more than an average goalie prior to his injuries.

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07-08-2012, 11:18 PM
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If he wasn't glass, he'd be probably as good as Jonathan Quick, maybe a hint better.

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07-08-2012, 11:21 PM
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Question: why did Rick Dipietro decide to wear a helmet and cage combo? Was he not using this when he got a concussion from Rolston's shot in practice?

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07-08-2012, 11:30 PM
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i think he would have been at least top 10 in the league, however, i always thought DP was overrated from day one. iv seen him let in many soft goals. hes probably like kenny powers in the locker room-thinking hes the teams star player and team leader-but other teammates kno hes washed up.

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07-08-2012, 11:39 PM
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Question: why did Rick Dipietro decide to wear a helmet and cage combo? Was he not using this when he got a concussion from Rolston's shot in practice?
I believe he started wearing it when he returned after Johnson crushed his cheekbone. It felt more comfortable to him than the standard mask, which quite possibly put pressure on his cheek bone.

Not 100% sure what he was wearing for the Rolston shot, but I could've sworn it was the Osgood-style mask.

The guy just couldn't catch a break after signing that contract. He was a healthy, 24 year old, who had a solid 30-win season. Superior puck-handling skills, very quick, capable of standing on his head to keep his team in the game.

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The great thing about Ricky was his athleticism. He wasn't one of those goalies who cover as much net as possible and let the puck hit them; he was aggressive, and athletic, nobody was quicker post to post. Very similar to Marty Brodeur in that respect imo.
This aggressiveness and athleticism is sort of his downfall nowadays. He was quick, but after these significant hip and knee injuries, he can no longer play like that, and has struggled to redefine his stance and playing style. Mightily, might I add. I mean, this is a guy who has not played all that much hockey, but he has been in the bottom 5 in the league in GAA and S% each of the last two seasons. He struggles out there, he's out of position...and definitely sluggish. Sadly, this is really it for him.

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07-09-2012, 01:11 AM
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The real.answer is that its impossible to tell. He had the potential to be the best in the NHL at one point. Then again, Al Montoya had a lot of potential too at one point.
From what we've seen, when he was healthy, he looked quite good, and it reasonable to think he would be on par with guys like Craig Anderson, or perhaps better. It's sad honestly.

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07-09-2012, 01:14 AM
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Yeah, definitely a top goaltender. He had insane reflexes and athleticism.

I remember watching him make some pretty great saves and thinking he's definitely gonna be somebody.

Sucks to see such a promising career basically ended before it really came to fruition.

At least he got paid though lol.

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07-09-2012, 01:26 AM
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Top 5 to me are guys like Quick, Rinne, Lundqvist, Schneider(I know hasn't had a full season as starter yet) Kari Lehtonen, even Ryan Miller when he's actually playing, and not sleeping like he was a better part of last season. Guys like that. Lehtonen hasn't proven much but I think he has a good future. Maybe even Mike Smith if he can repeat a season like this.

Fleury, and Bryz aren't that bad. Bryz was much better before he came to Philly, and Fleury I never considered a top goaltender, but the worst I saw of him was this past playoffs, and that was scary, and pretty horrendous.

Dipietro I'd say average. Probably not even as good as Nabokov. I'm talking Nabokov in his prime.
Never understood why Miller gets so much love. He's average. The average SV% last season among all goalies was .914. Miller is a career .915.

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07-09-2012, 02:35 AM
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probably still worse than Luongo

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One of my favorite goalies, such a shame. Hopefully he can stay injury-free for a while to regain some confidence too.

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07-09-2012, 02:58 AM
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When he was healthy and playing well the first years out of the lockout, he was a good goalie. I remember Hank vs. DiPi arguments as to which was better in 2006/2007. Had he stayed healthy, consistent top 10 goalie with top 5 potential.

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07-09-2012, 03:51 AM
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He was billed as an athletic goalie with good reflexes and unsurpassed puckhandling abilities, so I guess if everything had gone right, he would have been a Martin Brodeur type goalie, but without the ridiculous team accomplishments and whatnot. Or more realistically, a Marty Turco.
Marty Turco is the best comparison to DP. Turco was a puck handling guru but playing behind a Tippett system his whole career made people blind to the fact that he was an extremely average goalie. Even in his prime.

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Average NHL goalie at best. In the mold of a Bryzgalov/Fleury.
I think both of those goalies are above average...but I can buy the comparisons.

I like the combined comparisons to Turco and Fleury.

I don't think he'd ever have been a truly elite goalie in this league, but he definitely could have sustained a lengthy period on the second tier.

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Number 1. He'd probably have a shot at Brodeurs records.

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Never understood why Miller gets so much love. He's average. The average SV% last season among all goalies was .914. Miller is a career .915.
Because like the poster said, when Miller is on, he carries a team. Not too many goalies can do it like Miller does when he's on. Consistency is obviously his problem. Thus, the averasge SV%.

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at one point he may have been a top 5 goalie in the NHL. Its a shame what happened to his career.

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It really can't be stressed enough how awful some of those defenses that Rick DiPietro played behind were -- in his best season, the Isles' top 4 included Radek Martinek, Tom Poti, and the chalk outline of Sean Hill.

Goalies are so volatile that it's impossible to tell how good DiPietro could have been, but he definitely had the talent to be a star. Whether he had the consistency or the attitude to stay at the top is a different, trickier question.

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