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07-09-2012, 05:09 PM
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Montreal and San Jose

To Montreal: Douglas Murray

To San Jose: 3rd Round pick, Yannick Weber

Fair value?

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07-09-2012, 05:19 PM
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dont really pay too much attention the habs so dont know a ton about weber...

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07-09-2012, 05:25 PM
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Don't need Righties.

I think Murray could fetch a good return at the deadline, so If we are looking to deal him, we should wait.

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07-09-2012, 05:29 PM
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Probably ok value wise but the sharks wouldn't do that. They are in need of a speedy 3rd liner.

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07-09-2012, 05:46 PM
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Doesn't fill any need for SJ, and Douglas Murray can fetch a better return at the TDL

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07-09-2012, 05:48 PM
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Yeah as a Habs fan I believe Murray is worth more than that. I really don't know if Weber is going to stick in the show. He shows that he's capable at times.

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07-09-2012, 05:56 PM
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You guys have a tweener that you don't need? I'd take him...I liked the idea of Frolik for Murray. MTL have someone similar?

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I'd do it. Weber is a pretty good bottom pairing D, a 3rd is good too. Murray should be traded this offseason.


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07-09-2012, 06:33 PM
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let's troll it !!

Plekanec Eller Weber Kaberle 3rd 2013

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07-09-2012, 06:42 PM
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value is probably right, but I'd say No from MTL unless the pick dropped to a 5th/6th.

Weber still has very positive upside, whereas there are serious question marks about Murray being still able to handle top-4 min effectively. Unless habs are landing a relatively "sure" top-4 defensive dman, no point trading away assets for a guy with 1 year left on his contract.

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To Montreal: Douglas Murray

To San Jose: 3rd Round pick, Yannick Weber

Fair value?
For what feels like the 50th time in the last couple of years, no interest in Weber. The Sharks have too many RH d-men. Also, if the Sharks move Murray, they aren't likely to want any d-men back until it's a top-4 potential LH guy (which Murray alone probably won't get).

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Done from a Habs POV

Weber is what we have too much and Murray is what we lack on the blue line.

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07-09-2012, 07:11 PM
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How many Weber for Murray threads are there going to be? We don't need dmen and I'd rather keep Murray rather than trading him for that package. Makes no sense for the Sharks.

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Hadn't realized it had been proposed before. My mistake!

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07-09-2012, 07:40 PM
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Don't need Righties.

I think Murray could fetch a good return at the deadline, so If we are looking to deal him, we should wait.
If DW is looking to deal him, he has to get dealt before the season starts. As long as the Sharks are in playoff contention, DW isn't going to trade players like Clowe and Murray at the deadline. Trading them at the deadline for futures is practically saying "I don't think you guys will win this year". He'd rather lose them for nothing in the off-season if it meant a higher chance of winning the Cup.

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07-09-2012, 07:46 PM
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Pretty lateral trade for SJ, if anything. I'd rather keep Murray for that price. He may be slow, but he checks and blocks shots like a mo fo.

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07-09-2012, 08:03 PM
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Probably ok value wise but the sharks wouldn't do that. They are in need of a speedy 3rd liner.
Bourque+3rd For Murray and a 5th.
OR

I could even give Diaz+Bourque For Murray and a 2nd.

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Bourque+3rd For Murray and a 5th.
OR

I could even give Diaz+Bourque For Murray and a 2nd.
I'd consider the 1st one.

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07-09-2012, 08:20 PM
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To Montreal: Douglas Murray

To San Jose: 3rd Round pick, Yannick Weber

Fair value?
The Sharks don't need Yannick.

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I'd do it. Weber is a pretty good bottom pairing D, a 3rd is good too. Murray should be traded this offseason.
He was very sheltered. There isn't enough D naturally on the left without Murray. Plus the Sharks would have to use Boyle on the PK again. This would make the Sharks worse.

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07-09-2012, 08:27 PM
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Bourque+3rd For Murray and a 5th.
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I could even give Diaz+Bourque For Murray and a 2nd.
Rene Borque? Yeah the Sharks would do that immediately.

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07-09-2012, 08:30 PM
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Rene Borque? Yeah the Sharks would do that immediately.
Well bring it. Big speedy top 9 winger that can scrap and score.

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To Montreal: Douglas Murray

To San Jose: 3rd Round pick, Yannick Weber

Fair value?

I think something like
Cole+Yannick for Clowe+Murray

would fit San Jose needs more (speed on the wing).

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I think something like
Cole+Yannick for Clowe+Murray

would fit San Jose needs more (speed on the wing).
This Sharks fan disagrees.

Bourque for Murray+ works for me.

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I think something like
Cole+Yannick for Clowe+Murray

would fit San Jose needs more (speed on the wing).
Pretty much ends up being Murray VS Weber. Clowe and Cole are pretty much of the same value. Younger vs Better but older...

A deal around Bourque and Murray would be great.

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