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07-10-2012, 02:03 AM
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Hey now half the team just had a bad year.
Hey it was the REFs.. Or the Coaching.. Or the Goaltending..

Probably some combination of all three, anyone can see that.

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07-10-2012, 02:04 AM
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Hey Matt Stajan had 55 points one year on the Leafs. Could always trade Bozak for him!
We chose Bozak over Stajan.

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07-10-2012, 02:05 AM
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We chose Bozak over Stajan.
I think you missed my point.

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07-10-2012, 02:06 AM
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http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1227215

No need for Landeskog...banking on Stasny returning to 70 points I see. Well if you insist. Lemme know if you want some oceanview property in Kansas.
Pfft as if. As you said Stastny isn't worth it in anyway and if this deal gets us Bozak then I will be one happy guy. And don't you worry, I already have my mountain top alter in Saskatchewan made so I don't need anymore property.

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I think you missed my point.
I think you did. But here it is again:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1227215

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07-10-2012, 02:09 AM
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I think you did. But here it is again:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1227215
??????? Huh.

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07-10-2012, 02:16 AM
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??????? Huh.
I guess people need some assistance to put 1+1 together.

What ages did Stasny(70+) or even Stajan(55+) put up those point totals....

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I guess people need some assistance to put 1+1 together.

What ages did Stasny(70+) or even Stajan(55+) put up those point totals....
An HF consensus poll, generalizing all NHL players sure is rock solid evidence.

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07-10-2012, 02:19 AM
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So we're never getting Bozak?

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An HF consensus poll, generalizing all NHL players sure is rock solid evidence.
Yeah if you actually READ posts, youd see the stats to back up the poll.

I guess post #25 in that thread applies to you as well.

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I think you missed my point.
Someone's made a point in this thread?

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I must say..

Threads are not getting locked nearly as fast as they used to.. Hmm

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So we're never getting Bozak?
I'm so scared...what do we do if we don't get him!? I-I offered all our players...and it still wasn't enough...

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I must say..

Threads are not getting locked nearly as fast as they used to.. Hmm
I've been trying to hasten the process, but it apparently does not work. Oh well I'll see how this thread turns out in the morn.

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07-10-2012, 02:23 AM
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I guess people need some assistance to put 1+1 together.

What ages did Stasny(70+) or even Stajan(55+) put up those point totals....
I must be missing something in your theory. So we're comparing these two players to Bozak by age and production?

Stajan put up 55 points once at 24 and every other year has been basically a mediocre 3rd liner.

Stastny was a top offensive center for the first 4 years (21-25) of his career but with injuries has been slowed the last two years.

Bozak is 3 months younger than Stastny and has slightly better #'s than Stajan (at the same point) playing slightly more minutes than Stastny...

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07-10-2012, 02:26 AM
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I must be missing something in your theory. So we're comparing these two players to Bozak by age and production?

Stajan put up 55 points once at 24 and every other year has been basically a mediocre 3rd liner.

Stastny was a top offensive center for the first 4 years (21-25) of his career but with injuries has been slowed the last two years.

Bozak is 3 months younger than Stastny and has slightly better #'s than Stajan (at the same point) playing slightly more minutes than Stastny...
All I was saying was why would I want Stasny when his best years are probably behind him and he has a bloated contract. Bozak will do at 5M less.

No one wants Stajan. LOL

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Haven't you guys heard?? Stastny is untouchable. Trading him to the Leafs would cause a bigger backlash than trading Gretzky out of Edmonton. Leafs need to add 3 1st's plus Kessel or else Sherman doesn't answer the phone.
Wow one leafs fan finally figured it out. Good job buddy

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Yeah if you actually READ posts, youd see the stats to back up the poll.

I guess post #25 in that thread applies to you as well.
It makes a generalization for all players and those "stats" are provided for players whose careers aren't done.

And even if you accept your premise of "all players peaking at 25", it isn't like after 25 their production plummets.

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Nvm.

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07-10-2012, 02:31 AM
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It makes a generalization for all players and those "stats" are provided for players whose careers aren't done.

And even if you accept your premise of "all players peaking at 25", it isn't like after 25 their production plummets.
So teams should overpay for a bloated contract by going against the grain because a player MIGHT be the exception and not the rule?

Great logic.

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To Toronto: Stastny

To Avs: Bozak, 2nd, Holzer, Mccarthur
Great job OP Finally a deal that addresses the Avs needs!! If anyone says no here it should actually be Toronto. Ignoring wingers, situations, and other bogus like that that we Avs fans like to bring up to excuse Stasny's pathetic performance the last little while, and just look at stats(stats always tell the full story. All that you need to know) we can tell Bozak is almost at Stastny's level. The best part is that the Avs save cap, which should help relieve us since Stastny's huge salary has us struggling for cap room. Bozak behind two proven centers in Duchene and O'Reilly woudl be incredible. On top of that we get MacArthur, who is a clear upgrade on you current top 9 wingers(Parenteau, Jones, McGinn, Downie, Landeskog, Hedjuk) Since top 9 wingers is actually one of our biggest needs, and a guy like McGinn is best suited for the 4th line, he fits perfectly! Then there is Holzer, who also fills a need, since the Avs have a clear lack of defensive prospects. Probably our biggest need prospect wise actually. Again, great job OP, nice to see someone finally paying attention to what we need. And the icing on the cake is the 2nd rounder, with whom we might be lucky to draft another Stastny. In fact, this could actually turn out to be something like top winger+top prospect+center better than Stasty(Bozak)+Stastny like player for Stastny!! Actually, the more I look at this we should probably add, considering the fact were getting so much and dumping Stastny's salary which hinders us so much. Barrie perhaps? Anyways, good proposal.

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This thread is hilarious. Avs fans found a fun way to deal with seeing the same proposal over and over.

To my fellow Leaf fans stop making Stansny proposals, they don't want to trade him.
Maybe they do have alot of center dept, is that really a bad thing?
Maybe they do ask for more in return for him they he is probably worth but is it really surprising? He is the son of one of their all time greats and someone who has played well for them in the past.

They are never going to agree to trade him for what you think is reasonable so asking will just lead to another tread full of insults being thrown back and forth.

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This thread is hilarious. Avs fans found a fun way to deal with seeing the same proposal over and over.

To my fellow Leaf fans stop making Stansny proposals, they don't want to trade him.
Maybe they do have alot of center dept, is that really a bad thing?
Maybe they do ask for more in return for him they he is probably worth but is it really surprising? He is the son of one of their all time greats and someone who has played well for them in the past.

They are never going to agree to trade him for what you think is reasonable so asking will just lead to another tread full of insults being thrown back and forth.
A Leaf fan who "understands."

You have restored my faith in humanity.

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