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07-10-2012, 03:35 PM
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EDM would probably take Pari......... Never mind...

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Can't wait until this thread devolves into Prospect Flame Wars.

>Start with Larsson and go from there
>I wouldn't trade Larsson straight up let alone add anything, if anything Edmonton should add
>Then we don't want anything Hall is going to score like 60 goals next year, book it
>No way he sucks, I don't even want him Henrique is better any way
>Shut up no he isn't, RNH destroys Henrique
>RNH sucks he can only score on the power play
>Power play points count just as much as ES points
>How about a deal around Mark Fayne
>I've never heard of him so he must be a sucky #7 defensemen
>What about Pajaarvi instead, I heard he was a bust how about Peter Harrold and a 4th round pick
>LOL how did losing Parise feel
>LOL how does the basement feel
>Jersey Shore
>Pronger's wife
>Enjoy being relocated
>Enjoy another draft lottery

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Hall >= Larsson its not a trade either franchise could do right now though

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Can't wait until this thread devolves into Prospect Flame Wars.

>Start with Larsson and go from there
>I wouldn't trade Larsson straight up let alone add anything, if anything Edmonton should add
>Then we don't want anything Hall is going to score like 60 goals next year, book it
>No way he sucks, I don't even want him Henrique is better any way
>Shut up no he isn't, RNH destroys Henrique
>RNH sucks he can only score on the power play
>Power play points count just as much as ES points
>How about a deal around Mark Fayne
>I've never heard of him so he must be a sucky #7 defensemen
>What about Pajaarvi instead, I heard he was a bust how about Peter Harrold and a 4th round pick
>LOL how did losing Parise feel
>LOL how does the basement feel
>Jersey Shore
>Pronger's wife
>Enjoy being relocated
>Enjoy another draft lottery

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Thanks alot Deputy Downer.....

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Hall+Gagner for Kovalchuk

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Can't wait until this thread devolves into Prospect Flame Wars.

>Start with Larsson and go from there
>I wouldn't trade Larsson straight up let alone add anything, if anything Edmonton should add
>Then we don't want anything Hall is going to score like 60 goals next year, book it
>No way he sucks, I don't even want him Henrique is better any way
>Shut up no he isn't, RNH destroys Henrique
>RNH sucks he can only score on the power play
>Power play points count just as much as ES points
>How about a deal around Mark Fayne
>I've never heard of him so he must be a sucky #7 defensemen
>What about Pajaarvi instead, I heard he was a bust how about Peter Harrold and a 4th round pick
>LOL how did losing Parise feel
>LOL how does the basement feel
>Jersey Shore
>Pronger's wife
>Enjoy being relocated
>Enjoy another draft lottery

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I know he won't be traded, but Edmonton has four 1st-line forwards, so someone is eventually going to be moved, and Devils need to add a scoring threat to help replace Parise after his departure. Just for fun, lets say Hall was traded to NJ. What would it take? Everyone is available besides Larsson and Henrique. I'd start with Merrill and add from there...

Henrique and Hall were linemates throughout juniors at Windsor. Ignite that old chemistry??
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Can't wait until this thread devolves into Prospect Flame Wars.

>Start with Larsson and go from there
>I wouldn't trade Larsson straight up let alone add anything, if anything Edmonton should add
>Then we don't want anything Hall is going to score like 60 goals next year, book it
>No way he sucks, I don't even want him Henrique is better any way
>Shut up no he isn't, RNH destroys Henrique
>RNH sucks he can only score on the power play
>Power play points count just as much as ES points
>How about a deal around Mark Fayne
>I've never heard of him so he must be a sucky #7 defensemen
>What about Pajaarvi instead, I heard he was a bust how about Peter Harrold and a 4th round pick
>LOL how did losing Parise feel
>LOL how does the basement feel
>Jersey Shore
>Pronger's wife
>Enjoy being relocated
>Enjoy another draft lottery

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lol thank god I came to this thread.

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Lol not a chance. Hall is worth (quite) a bit more than Larsson imo.

Try to understand the ridiculous difference(s) between forwards and defence-men to develop their game and then, laugh at yourself. Tambellini would be ready to trade Hall+first round pick for Adam Larsson.

People forget AL is only 20 and does not play flashy one dimensional at forward position. You just need patience with young defence-men but that doesn't mean they don't have great value for team's managements.

Patience is a virtue. That's how it'll be done with AL in NJ anyway.

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It would have to be Larsson. No way around it.

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Taylor Hall is the heart of the Oilers and the future captain. He's the main face of their marketing in Alberta. He was there in person when the Oilers pitched to Justin Schultz in Toronto. He is the alpha dog among the Oiler young'uns.

It would take more than Adam Larsson, I'm just being honest.

And Larsson had a solid rookie season, but lets not go crazy either, his offensive upside at the NHL level is still questionable at best.

The price to get Taylor Hall is one the Devils would not want to pay so this is a non-starter. It would require a big overpayment.

The Oilers need a 26-32 year old veteran d-man now to fill out the roster for the next year or two. They are stock piled with young d-men in Schultz, Klefbom, Marincin, Gernat, Teubert, Musil, Smid, and Petry already. Adam Larsson is more of a "nice to have" for the Oilers, not a "must have" anymore, not with the signing of Schultz and the development of Klefbom + Marincin + Gernat in particular.


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Did Larsson get hurt in the playoffs? He only played 5 games. grant you 5 more then hall but what happened to this Super All star guy who is apparently worth more the Taylor Hall?

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Try to understand the ridiculous difference(s) between forwards and defence-men to develop their game and then, laugh at yourself. Tambellini would be ready to trade Hall+first round pick for Adam Larsson.

People forget AL is only 20 and does not play flashy one dimensional at forward position. You just need patience with young defence-men but that doesn't mean they don't have great value for team's managements.

Patience is a virtue. That's how it'll be done with AL in NJ anyway.
Seriously mate, come on now. This post is garbage. Have you even seen Taylor Hall play?
Larrson for Hall + Oilers 2013 1st? That isnt a trade even the most biased devils fan would think is reasonable. Except for you I suppose...

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OP, Oilers want Adam Larsson. Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Jordan Eberle and Nail Yakupov are not on the table. What would it take?

Now, do you see how silly that original post was?

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Try to understand the ridiculous difference(s) between forwards and defence-men to develop their game and then, laugh at yourself. Tambellini would be ready to trade Hall+first round pick for Adam Larsson.

People forget AL is only 20 and does not play flashy one dimensional at forward position. You just need patience with young defence-men but that doesn't mean they don't have great value for team's managements.

Patience is a virtue. That's how it'll be done with AL in NJ anyway.
Yeah, Tambellini would be in a rush to trade a 1st and Hall for Larsson since he could have easily drafted him last year but passed him up for Nugent-Hopkins.

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It's strange that fans from other teams have this hard on for Jordan Eberle and look down on Taylor Hall. Ask most Oilers fans or media, and you'll hear Taylor Hall is the better player.

And no, as much as I like Adam Larsson, I would not trade Taylor Hall for him.

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Did Larsson get hurt in the playoffs? He only played 5 games. grant you 5 more then hall but what happened to this Super All star guy who is apparently worth more the Taylor Hall?
He was 19 years old with a fair chance that a lad of his age was still virgin as well. Can't believe how people write off a teenager playing defence position that easily. This is embarrassing.



To a previous post, Larsson's offensive upside is surely questionable.

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Can't wait until this thread devolves into Prospect Flame Wars.

>Start with Larsson and go from there
>I wouldn't trade Larsson straight up let alone add anything, if anything Edmonton should add
>Then we don't want anything Hall is going to score like 60 goals next year, book it
>No way he sucks, I don't even want him Henrique is better any way
>Shut up no he isn't, RNH destroys Henrique
>RNH sucks he can only score on the power play
>Power play points count just as much as ES points
>How about a deal around Mark Fayne
>I've never heard of him so he must be a sucky #7 defensemen
>What about Pajaarvi instead, I heard he was a bust how about Peter Harrold and a 4th round pick
>LOL how did losing Parise feel
>LOL how does the basement feel
>Jersey Shore
>Pronger's wife
>Enjoy being relocated
>Enjoy another draft lottery

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Meh, I don't really have much against NJ other than more than one guy needs to punch Snooki in the face.

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I'm guessing Henrique AND Larsson, which would be overpayment...which is kind of the point.

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OP, Oilers want Adam Larsson. Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Jordan Eberle and Nail Yakupov are not on the table. What would it take?

Now, do you see how silly that original post was?
To his credit, he didn't list Kovalchuk or Zajac as untouchable, and if I'm the Oilers a nice + on Zajac really should at least garner interest for whichever of the 4 would be first out the door, he'd be a good upgrade on Gagner.

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Can't wait until this thread devolves into Prospect Flame Wars.

>Start with Larsson and go from there
>I wouldn't trade Larsson straight up let alone add anything, if anything Edmonton should add
>Then we don't want anything Hall is going to score like 60 goals next year, book it
>No way he sucks, I don't even want him Henrique is better any way
>Shut up no he isn't, RNH destroys Henrique
>RNH sucks he can only score on the power play
>Power play points count just as much as ES points
>How about a deal around Mark Fayne
>I've never heard of him so he must be a sucky #7 defensemen
>What about Pajaarvi instead, I heard he was a bust how about Peter Harrold and a 4th round pick
>LOL how did losing Parise feel
>LOL how does the basement feel
>Jersey Shore
>Pronger's wife
>Enjoy being relocated
>Enjoy another draft lottery

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That's great! Sadly, all too accurate on such threads. This one seems so far out there that it's not going to get too many people riled up, though.

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Even with Larsson in the package, I just don't see why we would trade Hall to New Jersey. I mean, I don't even know if I would take Larsson, Henrique and Merrill in return.

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Meh, I don't really have much against NJ other than more than one guy needs to punch Snooki in the face.
Snooki isn't even from New Jersey. I'm no fan of New Jersey but they catch so much unwarranted heat from that show.

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He was 19 years old with a fair chance that a lad of his age was still virgin as well. Can't believe how people write off a teenager playing defence position that easily. This is embarrassing.



To a previous post, Larsson's offensive upside is surely questionable.
Viktor Hedman has flashes of offensive brilliance too.

The question is are we talking about a 40-50+ point d-man year-in, year-out. That is questionable.

I like Adam Larsson's game a lot, but the Oilers would not move Taylor Hall for anything less than big time overpayment. It would damage the lockerroom to do so, like I said before he's the future captain of the Oilers.

A lot of the things the Oilers really needed in a young d-man -- right handed shot, good puck mover/skater, PP QB, they just got for free in Justin Schultz. The Oilers did like Adam Larsson, but obviously not enough to take him over Nugent Hopkins, and I don't think they'd give Taylor Hall up for him either.

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He was 19 years old with a fair chance that a lad of his age was still virgin as well. Can't believe how people write off a teenager playing defence position that easily. This is embarrassing.



To a previous post, Larsson's offensive upside is surely questionable.
Oh, well im glad Larsson scored that nice goal to put to rest any questions about his offensive upside

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pretty much this... and neither team will pull the trigger.

Hall is the face of Oilers franchise and Devils will be building the franchise around Larsson.

As for the OP.. if Crosby or Malkin play on separate lines then it is ok to have 1st liners play on the 2nd line.

Also, Hall and Yakupov might require a season or 2 to be called 1st liners. Right now they are 1st line potentials.
I agree that neither team would pull the trigger.

Honest question, is Hall the face of the Oilers? I feel like RNH is the guy that is/should be the face? I don't get to follow Western Conference too too much, so just curious.

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