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Senators extend Chris Neil (3 years, $1.9M cap hit)

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07-10-2012, 11:12 PM
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Thrilled. He's integral to this franchise and the community. Worth every penny.

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Maybe Winnik drops his asking price a little after this signing.

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Unreal deal for the Sens.

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One of the rare good contracts given out this summer.

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07-11-2012, 12:32 AM
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Oh come on its not that good.

He is going to be making almost 2 million at 37, and based on his style of play and age, a decline is surely going to happen.

Its fair, in my opinion. Last 1-2 years might sting, but a slight overpay isn't going to be the end of the world. At this point Sens kind of need to keep Neil.

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07-11-2012, 12:38 AM
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Oh come on its not that good.

He is going to be making almost 2 million at 37, and based on his style of play and age, a decline is surely going to happen.

Its fair, in my opinion. Last 1-2 years might sting, but a slight overpay isn't going to be the end of the world. At this point Sens kind of need to keep Neil.
I think what everybody is getting at is the fact that he could have gotten much more on the open market, and its a steal in that sense.

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07-11-2012, 12:42 AM
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Oh come on its not that good.

He is going to be making almost 2 million at 37, and based on his style of play and age, a decline is surely going to happen.

Its fair, in my opinion. Last 1-2 years might sting, but a slight overpay isn't going to be the end of the world. At this point Sens kind of need to keep Neil.
Under today's cap, it's equivalent to what a 1.06M contract was in 2005.

how many people were complaining about 1M veteran 4th liners in 2005?


The way I see it, chris neil might lose some speed. He might lose some offensive ability. He might fight less as he ages. I'd still pay that 37 year old chris neil for his leadership abilities, experience (10 seasons/81 playoff games as of now), and attitude on and off the ice.

Worst case scenario he becomes our 13th forward. 2nd worst case scenario he gets injury prone (in which case we get LTIR relief if we're a cap ceiling team, which I doubt).

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07-11-2012, 12:42 AM
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Enforcers don't die nicely. Gonna be fun watching some young guns beat his 37 year old face in. But then again e picks his spots more than ever.
You mean like this?



Do yourself a favour and youtube chris neil fights and tell me who he hasn't fought that is relevant.

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07-11-2012, 12:45 AM
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Great signing by the Sens. Don't like him when he plays against the Rangers, but when I'm watching the Sens play someone else, he's usually my favorite player on the ice. I was excited when the Rangers were rumored to be going after him a few years ago.

One of the few great agitators left in the league. It sucks that he's getting old because as of late it seems that agitators are a dying breed.

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07-11-2012, 12:59 AM
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The best part about Neil is that he's a pest who fights his own battles and has only turtled once in his whole career (late in a crucial playoff game, so that doesn't count). The majority, if not all other pests, start **** then the team's enforcers have to fight the battles after they turtle.

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07-11-2012, 01:27 AM
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Great signing by the Sens. Don't like him when he plays against the Rangers, but when I'm watching the Sens play someone else, he's usually my favorite player on the ice. I was excited when the Rangers were rumored to be going after him a few years ago.

One of the few great agitators left in the league. It sucks that he's getting old because as of late it seems that agitators are a dying breed.
Agreed, id have to go through all the teams but there isnt a lot of similar players to Neil coming to mind, dying breed indeed. Hopefully by the time he packs it in we'll be making a move for Lucic who is basically chris neil on steroids.

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07-11-2012, 02:11 AM
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Sens fans must be ecstatic about this signing. Keep in mind, this is a sub-$2M contract after the cap has risen every year since the lockout. This would've been a good deal for this type of player in '09, it's even better now. Great signing for an awesome player.

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great deal but damn it's going to be a pain in the ass to be against him, still don't like him. Respect what he does though.

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Steal, loving this contract.

Really happy to see him wanting to stay in Ottawa.

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Solid signing but lets be realistic here, his offence doesn't warrant a higher salary. The last time he passed the 13 goal mark or 30 point mark was back in 05/06.

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One of my favourite players. I've wanted him on the Canucks for years. Great contract I thought he was amazing against the Rangers.

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Solid signing but lets be realistic here, his offence doesn't warrant a higher salary. The last time he passed the 13 goal mark or 30 point mark was back in 05/06.
Don't think I've seen anyone in this thread said his offense does warrant a salary raise. He brings much much much more to the table than goals and assists.

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07-11-2012, 09:06 AM
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Under today's cap, it's equivalent to what a 1.06M contract was in 2005.

how many people were complaining about 1M veteran 4th liners in 2005?


The way I see it, chris neil might lose some speed. He might lose some offensive ability. He might fight less as he ages. I'd still pay that 37 year old chris neil for his leadership abilities, experience (10 seasons/81 playoff games as of now), and attitude on and off the ice.

Worst case scenario he becomes our 13th forward. 2nd worst case scenario he gets injury prone (in which case we get LTIR relief if we're a cap ceiling team, which I doubt).
Chris Neil doesn't really have the hockey skill to afford much of a decline and that is exactly what I expect to happen. Loss of foot speed is the big one.

I'm more or less expecting by 36-37 he will be in a 4th line/13th forward role. Regardless of the ratio(which is valid point), it still looks like 2 million.

I never complained. Just said this isn't the steal everybody is making it out to be. He could have gotten more by some foolish GM in the open market, I'll admit that.

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Solid signing but lets be realistic here, his offence doesn't warrant a higher salary. The last time he passed the 13 goal mark or 30 point mark was back in 05/06.
I find he scores big goals at big times, but this is a heart and soul "glue" guy here, not someone you sign for the offense. He brings a nasty forecheck with his game, he's a big hitter, he's one of the most fearless fighters and he's developed into a great leader (by all accounts close to the team).

If we were down by a goal in a Game 7 and we needed to score, my guess would be that MacLean would send someone else out. If we're getting pushed around a bit at the beginning of a game, Neil would go out right away and be a major factor.

These are the 'smaller' signings that mean so much to an NHL team. Are they worth what Jason Spezza brings? Perhaps not, but they play a huge role on any team and are worth their weight in gold.

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07-11-2012, 12:05 PM
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Even as a Leafs fan I can admit that this is a very good deal. Neil is a great fighter and hitter, really tough, good enough offensively to play on your 3rd line, and he hasn't shown many signs of slowing down. Everyone wants a player like Chris Neil on their team, 3 years at $1.92 mil/year is perfect for him. Is there a NMC? If not that's even better, there's a risk his play drops off (since the contract doesn't kick in until 2013/14, and he'll be 34/35/36 for the respective 3 years), but if there's no NMC he can just be waived if necessary, that's a small cap hit that's easy to bury.

Also, why is everyone saying he'll be 37 when this deal finishes? He'll be 33 for all of next season (his last year on his current deal), then 34/35/36 for the 3 years of his extension.

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Solid signing but lets be realistic here, his offence doesn't warrant a higher salary. The last time he passed the 13 goal mark or 30 point mark was back in 05/06.
He's not getting paid to score. He can be counted on for 20-30 points for a few more seasons, possibly the duration of the contract, but that's just gravy on top of what else he brings.

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Great deal.

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Even as a Leafs fan I can admit that this is a very good deal. Neil is a great fighter and hitter, really tough, good enough offensively to play on your 3rd line, and he hasn't shown many signs of slowing down. Everyone wants a player like Chris Neil on their team, 3 years at $1.92 mil/year is perfect for him. Is there a NMC? If not that's even better, there's a risk his play drops off (since the contract doesn't kick in until 2013/14, and he'll be 34/35/36 for the respective 3 years), but if there's no NMC he can just be waived if necessary, that's a small cap hit that's easy to bury.

Also, why is everyone saying he'll be 37 when this deal finishes? He'll be 33 for all of next season (his last year on his current deal), then 34/35/36 for the 3 years of his extension.
yep. he has one year remaining on his current contract.

This deal is for 2013-14 (34yo) , 2014-15 (35yo), 2015-16. (36yo)

technically the deal finishes on july 1st 2016, and he turns 37 in june 2016, but for practical purposes he's 36yo in the final year of his contract.

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very nice signing by the Sens today but he's gonna be a little more on his own this year then last.

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