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07-10-2012, 11:18 AM
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Looking around, can't find the rookie salary maximums... Did I miss them somewhere obvious?

I put 900K. I think the NHL bumped to 925 though.

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Umm ... I think you might have accidentally edited the post because it cut right after III: Restricted Free Agents


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Umm ... I think you might have accidentally edited the post because it cut right after III: Restricted Free Agents

Thanks Dan. Was updating links etc. Messed it up. Had to re-post -- hopefully i caught all my previous fixes.

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07-10-2012, 04:28 PM
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Thanks for all your hard work on this guys. Very much appreciated.

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Just for clarification purposes, if a player is ....for example an August 1st birthdate and turns 22 prior to September 15th, are we to go by today's date of July 11th and offer him a contract as a 21 year old player or are we to offer him a contract that will reflect his age at the start of NEXT season... as in making him 22 years old.

In simple terms, do we round up on ages between now and September 15th or simply go by the date the player shows as of today?

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Hey all - Just a note about the links provided for the undrafted free agents. These links must be to evidence from a reputable source that the player has signed to play in the NHL wherever the player is entering from Europe or from the NCAA.

I already notice that GM's are submitting hockeydb links etc. which do not show the player has signed (unless the player already played games last year). I've also noticed a lot of NCAA players who have not signed pro contracts yet being given offers.

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Just for clarification purposes, if a player is ....for example an August 1st birthdate and turns 22 prior to September 15th, are we to go by today's date of July 11th and offer him a contract as a 21 year old player or are we to offer him a contract that will reflect his age at the start of NEXT season... as in making him 22 years old.

In simple terms, do we round up on ages between now and September 15th or simply go by the date the player shows as of today?
He will be 22 on Sept 15 so that is the date/age we use.

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07-11-2012, 01:12 PM
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Hey all - Just a note about the links provided for the undrafted free agents. These links must be to evidence from a reputable source that the player has signed to play in the NHL wherever the player is entering from Europe or from the NCAA.
An AHL contract would also be accepted, IIRC. Basically a pro contract in North America.

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Hey all - Just a note about the links provided for the undrafted free agents. These links must be to evidence from a reputable source that the player has signed to play in the NHL wherever the player is entering from Europe or from the NCAA.

I already notice that GM's are submitting hockeydb links etc. which do not show the player has signed (unless the player already played games last year). I've also noticed a lot of NCAA players who have not signed pro contracts yet being given offers.
Geez. Sure wish I was given that type of warning last year. Just saying.

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Geez. Sure wish I was given that type of warning last year. Just saying.
Funny thing is, I am one of those who made the exact same mistake this year to get disqualified, and then did it again this year, before correcting it thanks to Matt's note. Would have been shut out two years in a row! At least it would have made any roster limit a non-issue.

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dont know have someone already noticed, but

Viktor Stalberg has signed new contract and is not avail as a RFA

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Funny thing is, I am one of those who made the exact same mistake this year to get disqualified, and then did it again this year, before correcting it thanks to Matt's note. Would have been shut out two years in a row! At least it would have made any roster limit a non-issue.
Send me Eberle, Eller and MacDonald, Kerdiles and Goncharov - there, roster limit problem solved!

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Funny thing is, I am one of those who made the exact same mistake this year to get disqualified, and then did it again this year, before correcting it thanks to Matt's note. Would have been shut out two years in a row! At least it would have made any roster limit a non-issue.
Oh and this makes me feel that much better

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Oh and this makes me feel that much better
I don't get it - what mistake did you guys make? Not using a credible source? That's hardly a new requirement...

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No links last year so it made my UDFA's intelligible.

Now a warning is being given to people making intelligible submissions.

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Oh and this makes me feel that much better
It's exactly because of last year that I'm giving this notice. Perhaps I should have just ignored it and let everyone get disqualified. But I trying to avoid anyone quiting etc.

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An AHL contract would also be accepted, IIRC. Basically a pro contract in North America.
Yes!

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No links last year so it made my UDFA's intelligible.

Now a warning is being given to people making intelligible submissions.
So what are you saying? Basically I lose if people don't submit properly - people are pissed off - or I warn people and people are pissed. Just everyone submit correctly. The reason we do this is exactly because people try to cheat and sign players who are not eligible. Let's not all pile on please. I'm trying to avoid a repeat of last years fiasco

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I think it's a good thing that you gave a warning.

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I actually would like to make a movement that "links" be substituted for links to elite prospects pages. The site is VERY well maintained and links at the bottom of the page are collected from various sources. I think it would make life easier for all parties involved as it contains all pertinent information clearly displayed.

In truth, to find my links all I do is go there and click the link they used as "evidence" and repaste it.

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Capgeek is also good, as are a number of other sites. Thy just need to confirm that a contract was signed, something hockeydb doesn't do.

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Haha, I just spent about half an hour going back and removing all elite prospect links from my offers and putting in the random criteria they used to establish a connection. I hope that doesn't backfire on me. The links all look good, but some are from fan blogs, etc.

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Haha, I just spent about half an hour going back and removing all elite prospect links from my offers and putting in the random criteria they used to establish a connection. I hope that doesn't backfire on me. The links all look good, but some are from fan blogs, etc.
For the record, fan blogs are not considered credible sources.

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For the record, fan blogs are not considered credible sources.
Oh well, fortunately I saved all my eliteprospect links too. Back in they go! I suppose I should be double covered. This process can get kind of hairy!

By the way, thanks Doug for the clarification.

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No worries.

Honestly, for 99% of signings, capgeek is the way to go. For guys who signed AHL deals as opposed to NHL deals, the AHL player page is a good substitute.

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