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07-11-2012, 04:52 PM
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I'll try this just for pure fun. Based on the first 15 prospects voted here in another thread.

Then I'll keep this post to see how wrong I am in a couple of years...

1. Alex Galchenyuk, C -- Average first line center, but first line center nonetheless. Won't have impressive numbers, but will be a coach's player. Will be better in playoffs than in regular season.

2. Nathan Beaulieu, D -- Good #2 to #4 d-man. Will never be the most efficient in his own territory, neither in the o-zone, but will be a nice complementary piece to the premiere d-man point producer for the team he will play for. Eternal second PP unit.

3. Jarred Tinordi, D -- Valuable stay-at-home d-man. Long career from #4 to #7 d-man. Will need to be paired with the perfect fit to be as good as he can.

4. Louis Leblanc, C/RW -- Coach's player, good third liner with occasional top lines duty. Will have a couple of seasons during which people will think he finally breakout (points), but it will never go higher than during these seasons.

5. Sebastien Collberg, RW -- Speedy winger, will have problems to translate his offensive potential in the NHL. After a few seasons alternating between second line and third or fourth, will go back in Europe. Think Anti Nieminen.

6. Brendan Gallagher, RW -- Constant yet average point producer on any line he will play. Long career as a complimentary point producer in the Cliff Ronning mold. Will end up having play for many teams.

7. Morgan Ellis, D -- Another coach's player, in the Josh Gorges mold. An interesting #5-6 d-man to have around.

8. Danny Kristo, RW -- Good third liner, what Chris Higgins could have been. Occasional top lines duty. Will end up playing for many team as an interesting complementary part.

9. Dalton Thrower, D -- Will have some chances because of his character and shot, but will never be more than a #5-#7 d-man. Short career. Lots of injuries.

10. Michael Bournival, C -- Star in the AHL, with some valuable moments on a third or fourth line in the NHL. Could become the ideal 13th forward.

11. Mac Bennett, D -- Will be a late bloomer, reaching the NHL when people will have forgot about him, and will surprise with his smooth skating. But beside 1 or 2 seasons during which a struggling team will take a chance on him as a regular point man, he will never be more than a #5-#7 d-man, helpful when one of the PP point man is injured. Think about Lee Norwood a few years ago.

12. Tim Bozon, LW -- Career AHLer with some cups of coffee in the NHL. Not good enough to be a sniper or a real power forward, and not strong or gritty enough to be a real third or fourth liner. Will end up playing in Europe.

13. Patrick Holland, C -- Will surprise a lot of people by becoming a good second line center, but without a true "personality" or edge, so he will end up playing for a lot of struggling teams. Could become a poor man Andrew Cassels.

14. Aaron Palushaj, RW -- What you see now is what it will always be. Somewhere between the AHL and NHL. Will try in the KHL in 1 or 2 years.

15. Darren Dietz, D -- Serviceable spare part in the NHL. Will have a few good season as a #4-#6 d-man, but nothing to write home about.

Now, we'll see... lol

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07-11-2012, 05:40 PM
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Galchenyuk : 1C

Beaulieu : #2-3, 1st PP line

Tinordi : #3-4, 1st PK line (Tinordi-Subban on the PK line?)

Gallagher : 2nd-line winger

Bournival : 3C

Ellis : #4-5

Collberg : 2nd-line winger

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07-11-2012, 05:51 PM
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The "realistic" leaves a syrupy taste in my mouth. I'll wait, thank you.

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07-11-2012, 06:17 PM
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Gally: 65 point centre with a couple PPG seasons, I don't think he's gonna be the elite two-way force that everybody else thinks he'll be.

Beaulieu: 35 point second pairing D-man with a couple season near 50 points.

Tinordi: Robyn Regher type player, who is best suited to the second pairing but can be a passable #2. 25 points per season.

Leblanc: 45-50 point winger who hustles well, a stretch of 60 point season as well.

Collberg: 50-55 points, 25 goals consistenly with one 35 goal, 70 point career year.

Gallagher: 40-50 points each year through sheer hard work. Fan favourite.

Ellis: #4-5 jack-of-all-trades d-man, 20 points per season with a couple near 35 points.

Kristo: Andrei Kostistyn, but with more severe attitude issues and 30-40 points a year instead of 40-50 like AKost. The fans' whipping boy.

Thrower: Tough as nails #4-5 d-man, 15-20 points per season.

Bournival: Basically what Eller is now but with less flash. 25-30 point third liner with one or two years like Chris Kelly had this year.

Bennett: Good AHL D-man, useful callup. Think Freddy St-Denis.

Bozon: Plays 400 NHL games as a late bloomer putting up decent second line numbers, then suddenly disappears like his name is Espen Knutsen.

Holland: AHL all-star, poor NHLer. Tim Stapleton-esque.

Palushaj: Average 25 point third liner, 40 point peak.

Dietz: Bottom pairing D-man who's prone to lapses in the defensive zone. 15 points per season.

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07-11-2012, 06:23 PM
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Alex Galchenyuk - Captain america

Nathan Beaulieu - Hulk

Sebastian Collberg - Batman

Jarred Tinordi - SpidoMan

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Alex Galchenyuk - Captain america

Nathan Beaulieu - Hulk

Sebastian Collberg - Batman

Jarred Tinordi - SpidoMan
Out of those four this one actually has a chance of happening

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I'll try this just for pure fun. Based on the first 15 prospects voted here in another thread.

Then I'll keep this post to see how wrong I am in a couple of years...

1. Alex Galchenyuk, C -- Average first line center, but first line center nonetheless. Won't have impressive numbers, but will be a coach's player. Will be better in playoffs than in regular season.

2. Nathan Beaulieu, D -- Good #2 to #4 d-man. Will never be the most efficient in his own territory, neither in the o-zone, but will be a nice complementary piece to the premiere d-man point producer for the team he will play for. Eternal second PP unit.

3. Jarred Tinordi, D -- Valuable stay-at-home d-man. Long career from #4 to #7 d-man. Will need to be paired with the perfect fit to be as good as he can.

4. Louis Leblanc, C/RW -- Coach's player, good third liner with occasional top lines duty. Will have a couple of seasons during which people will think he finally breakout (points), but it will never go higher than during these seasons.

5. Sebastien Collberg, RW -- Speedy winger, will have problems to translate his offensive potential in the NHL. After a few seasons alternating between second line and third or fourth, will go back in Europe. Think Anti Nieminen.

6. Brendan Gallagher, RW -- Constant yet average point producer on any line he will play. Long career as a complimentary point producer in the Cliff Ronning mold. Will end up having play for many teams.

7. Morgan Ellis, D -- Another coach's player, in the Josh Gorges mold. An interesting #5-6 d-man to have around.

8. Danny Kristo, RW -- Good third liner, what Chris Higgins could have been. Occasional top lines duty. Will end up playing for many team as an interesting complementary part.

9. Dalton Thrower, D -- Will have some chances because of his character and shot, but will never be more than a #5-#7 d-man. Short career. Lots of injuries.

10. Michael Bournival, C -- Star in the AHL, with some valuable moments on a third or fourth line in the NHL. Could become the ideal 13th forward.

11. Mac Bennett, D -- Will be a late bloomer, reaching the NHL when people will have forgot about him, and will surprise with his smooth skating. But beside 1 or 2 seasons during which a struggling team will take a chance on him as a regular point man, he will never be more than a #5-#7 d-man, helpful when one of the PP point man is injured. Think about Lee Norwood a few years ago.

12. Tim Bozon, LW -- Career AHLer with some cups of coffee in the NHL. Not good enough to be a sniper or a real power forward, and not strong or gritty enough to be a real third or fourth liner. Will end up playing in Europe.

13. Patrick Holland, C -- Will surprise a lot of people by becoming a good second line center, but without a true "personality" or edge, so he will end up playing for a lot of struggling teams. Could become a poor man Andrew Cassels.

14. Aaron Palushaj, RW -- What you see now is what it will always be. Somewhere between the AHL and NHL. Will try in the KHL in 1 or 2 years.

15. Darren Dietz, D -- Serviceable spare part in the NHL. Will have a few good season as a #4-#6 d-man, but nothing to write home about.

Now, we'll see... lol
I like when our fans are realistic, but you would think at least one or two of those players will become a star.

I think Thrower will make a lot of teams wish they never passed on him. He's already a very good defenceman, and he plays with a huge chip on his shoulder. Actually, more like a boulder. Like Subban: talent, character and drive.

Collberg could also be the best Habs pick of the draft.

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I like when our fans are realistic, but you would think at least one or two of those players will become a star.

I think Thrower will make a lot of teams wish they never passed on him. He's already a very good defenceman, and he plays with a huge chip on his shoulder. Actually, more like a boulder. Like Subban: talent, character and drive.

Collberg could also be the best Habs pick of the draft.
I loveeeeeeee collbergs skillsset he just bleeds goalscorer. what I love is that he has amazing skating abilities so he can create his own lanes and whip one top cheese

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I loveeeeeeee collbergs skillsset he just bleeds goalscorer. what I love is that he has amazing skating abilities so he can create his own lanes and whip one top cheese
He really needs to step up in Sweden this coming season, though.

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He really needs to step up in Sweden this coming season, though.
Hopefully he's put in a scoring role and not playing 5mins a game on the 4th line. That too me will show why alot of teams were very stupid in letting him fall to us.

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Galchenyuk: 1st line center. 80 pts (30g-50a). Anze Kopitar. Most spectacular player in the Bell Center since Kovalev.

Collberg: 2nd line winger. 50 pts (25g-25a). Daniel Alfredsson with less offensive potential.

Beaulieu: 2nd pairing defenseman. 40-45 pts (10g-30a). Tomas Kaberle.

Tinordi: Top 4 stay-at-home defenseman. 10pts. Top 10 Blocked shot. Top 20 Hits. Hal Gill with mobility. Will learn watching Gorges.

Gallagher: 2nd-3rd line depth scoring winger. 40-50 pts (20g-20a). Brian Gionta. With the power of St-Maurice, Martin St-Louis.

Ellis: 3rd pairing d-man. 15 pts. Gorges.

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Anyone else think Collberg could become some sort of a Zetterberg? (W/Less Points & Not as much of a "2 way player as him)

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Anyone else think Collberg could become some sort of a Zetterberg? (W/Less Points & Not as much of a "2 way player as him)
Zetterberg was a 7th round pick so who knows. But i didn't red anything special about his defensive play.

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The "realistic" leaves a syrupy taste in my mouth. I'll wait, thank you.
this better?:

Gally: bust

Beaulieu: franchise player on another team

Tinordi: quits hockey to become a dancer

Leblanc: Cup winning Bruins coach

Collberg: bust

Gallagher: hall of famer

Ellis: bust

Kristo: bust

Thrower: traded for Gomez after he left as a FA, hfboards superhero

Bournival: darche 2.0

Bennett: bust

Bozon: bust

Holland: bust

Palushaj: bust

Dietz: bust

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Alex Galchenyuk = David Legwand

Nathan Beaulieu = Ron Hainsey

Jarred Tinordi = Ryan O'Byrne

Sebastian Collberg = Nikita Filatov

Brendan Gallagher = Eric Perrin

Morgan Ellis = Dan Jancevski






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Alex Galchenyuk: 80-90 point two-way #1 centre, a la Jonathan Toews.

Nathan Beaulieu: 40-50 point #2-3 Defenseman, 1st wave PP, average in his own end, Mike Green-ish.

Jarred Tinordi: #3-4 Shut down d-man, 1st PK unit, good for 20-25 points, see a more mobile and intimidating Hal Gill.

Loius Leblanc: Top-6 forward, too much skill and smarts to be on the 3rd line, good for 20-25 goals and about 50 points, with a couple of 60+ point seasons. Patrice Bergeron-esque.

Sebastian Collberg: Top line sniper 28-35 goals, 65+ points, in the mold of Patrick Kane with less playmaking ability.

Brendan Gallagher: Top line winger, but fits into the 2nd line behind Collberg. 20-25 goals, 45-55 points. Brian Gionta.

Morgan Ellis: #4-5-6 D-man who can play in all situations, 2nd PK, 10-20 points. Poor man's Josh Gorges.

Danny Kristo: 2nd line winger who eventually gets traded because of depth on RW and attitude issues, 20-25, 50 points. Poor man's Phil Kessel.

Dalton Thrower: #4-5 shutdown D-man, 2nd PP, 2nd PK. 20 points, Kevin Bieska.

Michael Bournival: 3rd line center, 20-30 points, 1st PK, couldn't think of a comparable.

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I loveeeeeeee collbergs skillsset he just bleeds goalscorer. what I love is that he has amazing skating abilities so he can create his own lanes and whip one top cheese
Collberg is undersized, does not have a strong defensive game and struggled mightily when playing against tough competition.

He has a very long way to go before he will be making any impact or even make the team with the Canadiens.

This is why I love the HFBoards and love threads like this one.

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Collberg is undersized, does not have a strong defensive game and struggled mightily when playing against tough competition.
I'm not sure where you're getting the 3rd one from.

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If Collberg reaches his potential, would Louie Eriksson be a accurate comparison?

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I'm not sure where you're getting the 3rd one from.
Probably since Collberg struggled to produce in SWE's top league but he did so having very little ice time.

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galchenyuk: joe sakic

beaulieu : christian ehrhoff

tinordi : robyn regehr

gallagher : brian gionta

bournival : sammy pahlsson

ellis : brad stuart

collberg : patrick sharp


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galchenyuk: joe sakic

beaulieu : christian ehrhoff

tinordi : robyn regehr

gallagher : brian gionta

bournival : sammy pahlsson

ellis : brad stuart

collberg : patrick sharp

Pretty original. I like it

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Galchenyuk will probably be similar to Anze Kopitar with a slighty more defensive role/upside and a bit less offensive upside.

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Galchenyuk will probably be similar to Anze Kopitar with a slighty more defensive role/upside and a bit less offensive upside.
Anze is strong defensively.

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I agree with a lot of the people saying that we're overrating our prospects.

Odds are that a few of those will never make the NHL.

Galchenyuk I'm really hoping turns into an impact PPG player, but that's being optimistic. Realistically, if I was a betting man, I'd pick someone like Mikko Koivu as a comparable.

Beaulieu - I'm a little disappointed in the comparables for him so far because I've seen little of him and was hoping he was doing well. From the little I've seen, his offensive skills and vision seem to be on another level.
He's more of a boom or bust type of guy, I guess, but I hope to see him and Tinordi as a strong second pairing in the future, with Subban and hopefully a strong two-way defenceman as our first (hopefully a step up from Gorges, who would be on our bottom pairing).

Tinordi - I'm hoping he pans out. Has little offensive game but hoping he can be a solid stay-at-home d-man. I'd be very happy with a Komisarek-type of d-man.

Gallagher - I'm not as high on him as others are, but I think if he makes the NHL, he can be a good 20-50 guy on the second line.

Collberg - Way too early and I have never really seen him play (I don't remember noticing him with Sweden at the WJC). It would be great for him to turn into a top line player with Gally and Patches, but that's not really based on anything much other than the fact that Timmins really likes him.

I don't know much about Ellis, but am very happy with what I've been reading on him thus far. Sounds like he could be an NHL player.

Other than those guys, I'm not sure if anyone else will really have a significant impact for us at the NHL level. Odds are one or two of those guys will bust and one or two not listed will surprise, but it'd be very tough to tell at this point.

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