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Habs Board 2012 Prospect Rankings #18

View Poll Results: Who is #18?
Josiah Didier, D 3 2.40%
Greg Pateryn, D 5 4.00%
Olivier Archambault, LW 2 1.60%
Mark MacMillan, LW 23 18.40%
Daniel Pribyl, C 8 6.40%
Brady Vail, C 20 16.00%
Alexander Avtsin, RW 9 7.20%
Gabriel Dumont, C 16 12.80%
Magnus Nygren, D 2 1.60%
Erik Nystrom, LW 2 1.60%
Charles Hudon, LW 10 8.00%
Brendon Nash, D 13 10.40%
Dustin Walsh, C 0 0%
Ian Schultz, RW 1 0.80%
Joonas Nattinen, C 11 8.80%
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07-12-2012, 11:07 AM
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Are you stopping the poll at 20 or 30?

Voted MacMillan. Add Sullivan.

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Voted Pribyl.

I think Nash, Hudon and Vail should already be ranked too...

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Why's he still called Black Geoffrion?
I wondered the same.


Dumont, add Trunev

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While he could become irrelevant as soon as next year if he still can't find the way to breakout in Hamilton this season, I just can't fathom Avstin falling out of the top-20 Habs prospects after being praised and I believe make the top-10 on this Habs board a year ago.

His upside is arguably greater than anyone left on this list, though I could see arguments for guys like Hudon, MacMillan and maybe even Pribyl.

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Are you stopping the poll at 20 or 30?

Voted MacMillan. Add Sullivan.
By the end we will have ranked every prospect. Of course when we get to the bottom of the barrel I will do a multiple choice poll.

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While he could become irrelevant as soon as next year if he still can't find the way to breakout in Hamilton this season, I just can't fathom Avstin falling out of the top-20 Habs prospects after being praised and I believe make the top-10 on this Habs board a year ago.

His upside is arguably greater than anyone left on this list, though I could see arguments for guys like Hudon, MacMillan and maybe even Pribyl.
I'd go even further and say his upside is probably greater than any forwards in our prospect pool not named Galchenyuk or Collberg. It's just looking very grim in his case.

He has the size, the skills, the speed... He came over to North America as a 19 years old, had a good season as a rookie despite struggling at times and adapting to a new environment...

This last season was really rough on him. Many--myself included--say it's make or break for him this year... That's pretty harsh considering he was drafted 3 years ago. Personally, what I'm fearing is that if he doesn't earn the trust of his coach early on, the temptation of going back overseas will be great. I'm sure a KHL club will be willing to throw a good amount of money at him.

What I heard of him last camp is that he couldn't talk much, couldn't communicate with the rest of the prospects/coaches, was very solitary and it didn't help that he had (if I remember well) an injured wrist. If he can learn the language and finish his adaptation to the new culture, he should have a good season.

In his case, it's mostly a matter of motivation and effort.

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Voted Nattinen (surprised at how few votes he got)

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I'd go even further and say his upside is probably greater than any forwards in our prospect pool not named Galchenyuk or Collberg. It's just looking very grim in his case.

He has the size, the skills, the speed... He came over to North America as a 19 years old, had a good season as a rookie despite struggling at times and adapting to a new environment...

This last season was really rough on him. Many--myself included--say it's make or break for him this year... That's pretty harsh considering he was drafted 3 years ago. Personally, what I'm fearing is that if he doesn't earn the trust of his coach early on, the temptation of going back overseas will be great. I'm sure a KHL club will be willing to throw a good amount of money at him.

What I heard of him last camp is that he couldn't talk much, couldn't communicate with the rest of the prospects/coaches, was very solitary and it didn't help that he had (if I remember well) an injured wrist. If he can learn the language and finish his adaptation to the new culture, he should have a good season.

In his case, it's mostly a matter of motivation and effort.
This is also what I have been able to observe in the past two years. Great analysis. I guess it goes back to how we interpret our own hierarchical preferences when voting in these polls. I also believe Vail is much more likely to become a regular NHLer than Avstin, and have voted for guys who don't necessarily ooze as much raw upside as Avstin in previous rounds. So at this point, I guess it's a matter of deciding if you prefer a 6.0B over a 7.5D (or a 8.0F for that matter), to use that much flawed hockeysfuture ranking system.

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