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07-12-2012, 01:47 PM
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Both of those deals are atrocious for the other team.

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Anyone know if Joey Crabb got signed by anyone?

Would love to have him on the Marlies again. He's probably holding out for an NHL gig first though.

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Just curious, did Joey Crabb get signed by anyone?
He's a Capital. 1 year, $900K I think.

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Anyone know if Joey Crabb got signed by anyone?
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Ah. Thanks guys. Shame, he's your prototypical utility player. Very useful.

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I'm a big of the idea of going for Colin Wilson.

He's in a similar situation to Schenn and JVR - a kid with a boatload of talent but has stalled slightly - either naturally, or in the Preds defensive system

He's young, skilled, and big. I think that given the opportunity between Kessel & Lupul it would jump start his development, it would be a big upgrade over Bozak, and he'd create tons of room for them.

I think that the best way to cost effectively get a solid upgrade up the middle, we're going to have to a bit of a Risk / Reward situation, and this kid could come with TONS of reward.

What about Connelly / Bozak + one of Blacker / Finn + a MacAurther ...

they'd get help up front, help hitting the cap floor with reasonable short term deals, and a solid prospect.

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http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=637835

Bernier "expects to be traded," preferably "closer to home," and he's from Quebec.

I can't imagine what types of discussions Leafs brass are having right now with such good trade options at goal, and how things are getting closer to the wire.

What would it take?

Should be an interesting September.

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Bernier "expects to be traded," preferably "closer to home," and he's from Quebec.

I can't imagine what types of discussions Leafs brass are having right now with such good trade options at goal, and how things are getting closer to the wire.

What would it take?

Should be an interesting September.

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Everyone said Bernier wouldn't be moved this year. Well it looks like he will force a trade. Very interesting, and this might make Vancouver blink as well. Burke should be ALL over this one!

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I don't see all the Bernier hype personally. If we get him cheap enough I guess I would be okay with it, but if his value is any indication of what LA fans make it out to be, pass from me.

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Why would we take Bernier? He hasn't proven anything more than Reimer. Why is everyone so high on this guy?

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Why would we take Bernier? He hasn't proven anything more than Reimer. Why is everyone so high on this guy?
Agreed. The only way I would trade for him is if he comes real cheap.

We have enough good, unproven goalies.

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Why would we take Bernier? He hasn't proven anything more than Reimer. Why is everyone so high on this guy?
The difference is Bernier lost his job to the best goalie on the planet and Reimer lost his to the Monster. Hello.

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The difference is Bernier lost his job to the best goalie on the planet and Reimer lost his to the Monster. Hello.
Bernier still has a lower NHL career save percentage than Reimer despite playing on the team that was 2nd in GA this past season, 6th the year before, 9th the year before that and 11th the year before that. Yes this career save percentage includes Reimer's dismal year this year.

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The difference is Bernier lost his job to the best goalie on the planet and Reimer lost his to the Monster. Hello.
Bernier's numbers are not better than Reimer's. How is what you're saying relevant?

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Reimer expects to be back as the #1 Goal Tender.

http://www.tsn.ca/toronto/blogs/jonas_siegel/?id=400453

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TORONTO – Spending much of his offseason in the lush province of British Columbia, James Reimer has heard the odd Roberto Luongo rumour.

The chatter means little to the 24-year-old Leafs goaltender.

Refreshed and finally healthy, an upbeat Reimer is intent on reclaiming the starting job in Toronto, anxious to erase the memories of an injury-stained second season.

"That's the goal," Reimer told TSN.ca in a telephone conversation from Toronto. "That's the goal ever since you're three years old, whether you had a great year or a tough year is to go in there and prove that you're the starter. That's what I wanted to do last year and that's what I want to do again this year coming into camp.

"I want to come in and show that I can be the starter and that they need to look nowhere else."

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I would take Luongo over Bernier, considering how each trade would probably look and our organizational need -- Luongo just fits the bill.

I was mostly thinking that this makes the Luongo negotiations a little more interesting. There's a few good option at goal in play right now and the more that happens, the more I have faith that Burke can make a signature move and improve the goalie tandem, whoever it turns out to be, for cheap. The more variables, the more leverage points Burke has.

I want Luongo, but I'd take Bernier is it means we get to keep Scrivens.

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Why would we take Bernier? He hasn't proven anything more than Reimer. Why is everyone so high on this guy?
Cause he's young and was taken 11th overall in the 06 draft. I'm not giving up on Reimer or man crushing on Bernier like most but they do have similar numbers in the NHL.

James Reimer

71 GP 2.83 GAA .911 SV%

Jonathan Bernier

48 GP 2.50 GAA .910 SV%

They both have similar stats even though Reimer ha splayed a few more games but Bernier put up better numbers in the AHL and Reimer put up good numbers also.

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Bernier's numbers are not better than Reimer's. How is what you're saying relevant?
Really eh? Save percentage is basically identical and Bernier has a better goals against.

If the price is right perhaps an option, or even leverage with Vancouver.

Reimer will be lucky to secure a backup role.

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Cause he's young and was taken 11th overall in the 06 draft. I'm not giving up on Reimer or man crushing on Bernier like most but they do have similar numbers in the NHL.

James Reimer

71 GP 2.83 GAA .911 SV%

Jonathan Bernier

48 GP 2.50 GAA .910 SV%

They both have similar stats even though Reimer ha splayed a few more games but Bernier put up better numbers in the AHL and Reimer put up good numbers also.
Except Reimer put up those numbers with the atrocious Leafs D, where as Bernier played behind one of the better D's in the league.

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I would take Luongo over Bernier, considering how each trade would probably look and our organizational need -- Luongo just fits the bill.

I was mostly thinking that this makes the Luongo negotiations a little more interesting. There's a few good option at goal in play right now and the more that happens, the more I have faith that Burke can make a signature move and improve the goalie tandem, whoever it turns out to be, for cheap. The more variables, the more leverage points Burke has.

I want Luongo, but I'd take Bernier is it means we get to keep Scrivens.
I'd rather have Luongo too.

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Cause he's young and was taken 11th overall in the 06 draft. I'm not giving up on Reimer or man crushing on Bernier like most but they do have similar numbers in the NHL.

James Reimer

71 GP 2.83 GAA .911 SV%

Jonathan Bernier

48 GP 2.50 GAA .910 SV%

They both have similar stats even though Reimer ha splayed a few more games but Bernier put up better numbers in the AHL and Reimer put up good numbers also.
Exactly. His track record reflects a prospect who's better than any goalie we have right now. Bernier is a fantastic prospect and any team would love to have him. He would fit right in with the Leafs.

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Except Reimer put up those numbers with the atrocious Leafs D, where as Bernier played behind one of the better D's in the league.
When Bernier mostly played the defence in LA wasn't that great either. Bernier had a .909 SV% and a 2.36 GAA this season in 16 GP. Gotta remember the team you saw in the playoffs was not the same team you saw during the season. Especially during the 1st half of the season.

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Bernier "expects to be traded," preferably "closer to home," and he's from Quebec.

I can't imagine what types of discussions Leafs brass are having right now with such good trade options at goal, and how things are getting closer to the wire.

What would it take?

Should be an interesting September.

Edit: sp.
Can't see what problem that Bernier is the solution to.

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Screw Bernier. He put up similar numbers to riemer.

Difference: Reimer played on one of the worst GAA teams in the league while Bernier did so on the team with the best GAA in the league.

Therefore: Reimer>Bernier as of right now.

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