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07-11-2012, 05:56 PM
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lol you can get off your high horse buddy, only one Oiler fan has said this fair.
He along with the majority of panther fans are trying to prove a point. Our young players or prospects are inherently worth more to us internally than any other team would value them right now.

I'm sure oiler fans feel the same about Yak, Hall, RNH, eberle.

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07-11-2012, 07:00 PM
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it's fine, bad trading partners when some believe Kulikov is worth a 1st overall franchise player and then we already have Klefbom and J.Shultz coming up, Edmonton have enough defenceman that are minus players as it is today.
You do have them coming up but the point is right now Kulikov is a first pairing defeceman and Klefbom and Shultz are not. While I agree your first pick could be a top 5 and reward the Panthers a player like Bobkov it really does not make sense for a team who has just made the playoffs to trade away a player that helps now for futures.


So in all fairness if you want Kulikov then someone like Hall, Eberle, RNH will need to be brought into discussion. You can decline all you want but in the end Florida is more then happy keeping Kulikov.

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07-11-2012, 09:25 PM
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or Eberle.

Eberle > Kulikov

what!?? Edmonton's first rounder in 2013 has no value?? it's going to be a late round pick??

Whitney is not a spare part and Omark could crack the Panthers.
Whitney and Omark are garbage.

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07-11-2012, 10:02 PM
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or Eberle.

Eberle > Kulikov

what!?? Edmonton's first rounder in 2013 has no value?? it's going to be a late round pick??

Whitney is not a spare part and Omark could crack the Panthers.
Because a few months removed from the playoffs the panthers want to trade their young stud defenseman for a broken old dman, a third liner(at best) a prospect that may never make it and a pick next year that at best becomes what they have in kulikov, but they would have to wait a few years

Great idea skippy

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07-12-2012, 03:09 PM
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Dr Quincy's test to see if an offer is fair value: If I can tell which team the proposer is a fan of, then it isn't fair.

Clearly you aren't a Florida fan.

Edmonton only gets a player like Kulikov if they deal one of you know who.
Kulikov plus pick doesnt get you one of the "you know who" LOL

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07-12-2012, 04:15 PM
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Kulikov plus pick doesnt get you one of the "you know who" LOL
Lol, how ignorant.

I love how Yakupov holds more value that a 22 year old defenseman with already 3 NHL seasons under his belt and has served as a #1 defenseman already. And why does Kulikov hold less value than the other 3? Because his a defenseman, and doesnt put up the same point, or is it because you dont get defensemen with the wow factor?!

Kulikov certainly would fetch one of "you know who" if he was traded to Edmonton, or a deal would never happen. Kulikov gotta be one, if not the most, underrated player on HFboards. If you're not willing to give up quality, you will NEVER get quality in return!

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07-12-2012, 04:18 PM
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Every Edmonton trade thread turns into the same thread. Right now the oilers have...

RNH/Hall/Eberle/Yak
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Schultz and A bunch of stuff

Their proposals always include a bunch of stuff for a player that is maybe a notch or two below their top 4. But since there is no middle ground, fans of other teams say, the only we way we'd be enticed is if it were a deal around one of the top 4. Then Edmonton fans come in and say, No way *top 4* is >>>>>>> then the player we're interested in. Which the other teams fans usually already realize that the top 4 are in deed better than their player, but since there is no middle ground, a deal with the oilers doesn't interest them. The only way it would is in a package for one of the top 4. It happens in 90% of Edmonton trade threads.

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07-12-2012, 04:28 PM
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Every Edmonton trade thread turns into the same thread. Right now the oilers have...

RNH/Hall/Eberle/Yak
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Schultz and A bunch of stuff

Their proposals always include a bunch of stuff for a player that is maybe a notch or two below their top 4. But since there is no middle ground, fans of other teams say, the only we way we'd be enticed is if it were a deal around one of the top 4. Then Edmonton fans come in and say, No way *top 4* is >>>>>>> then the player we're interested in. Which the other teams fans usually already realize that the top 4 are in deed better than their player, but since there is no middle ground, a deal with the oilers doesn't interest them. The only way it would is in a package for one of the top 4. It happens in 90% of Edmonton trade threads.
good observation.
It always becomes one of the top 4 guys will have to go the other way.

but then again EDM fans asking for a good young Dman on a hockey's future board should expect nothing less from other fans.

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07-12-2012, 04:46 PM
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nevermind Mackinnon.

Seth Jones > Kulikov
Ryan Pulock > Kulikov
Come on Oiler fans . We are looking bad with these statements . Both these guys mention has yet to play an NHL game . Yes they look great at the JR level . But that does not mean they are able to put it together at the NHL level . As an Oiler fan you take the proven player all day long .
This statement is like saying never mine Crosby < Mackinnon . It just does not make sense to make such a comment .
Panther fans do not judge all Oiler fans by this . This guy is one of the worst

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07-12-2012, 05:34 PM
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To Edmonton:
Dustin Jeffrey
Paul Martin
Beau Bennett
Pens 1st Round Pick (2013)

To Pittsburgh:
Taylor Hall

Whatcha think, Oiler fans?

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07-12-2012, 05:56 PM
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To Edmonton:
Dustin Jeffrey
Paul Martin
Beau Bennett
Pens 1st Round Pick (2013)

To Pittsburgh:
Taylor Hall

Whatcha think, Oiler fans?
Oiler fans say pass without calling Jeffrey and Martin garbage.

We would not counter with a Hall + 2nd for Malkin either.

edit: PIT fans should know how it went with PIT proposals up until last year.. eveything turned into "one of your 3 centers will have to be included"


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I guess Kulikov is already a proven #1 defenceman today, not worth 'spare parts'.

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07-12-2012, 06:18 PM
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Oiler fans say pass without calling Jeffrey and Martin garbage.

We would not counter with a Hall + 2nd for Malkin either.

edit: PIT fans should know how it went with PIT proposals up until last year.. eveything turned into "one of your 3 centers will have to be included"
It was a mock post, but yeah...


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07-12-2012, 06:22 PM
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To Edmonton:
Dustin Jeffrey
Paul Martin
Beau Bennett
Pens 1st Round Pick (2013)

To Pittsburgh:
Taylor Hall

Whatcha think, Oiler fans?


Dmitry Kulikov and Keaton Ellerby > Taylor Hall


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07-12-2012, 07:58 PM
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Every Edmonton trade thread turns into the same thread. Right now the oilers have...

RNH/Hall/Eberle/Yak
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Schultz and A bunch of stuff

Their proposals always include a bunch of stuff for a player that is maybe a notch or two below their top 4. But since there is no middle ground, fans of other teams say, the only we way we'd be enticed is if it were a deal around one of the top 4. Then Edmonton fans come in and say, No way *top 4* is >>>>>>> then the player we're interested in. Which the other teams fans usually already realize that the top 4 are in deed better than their player, but since there is no middle ground, a deal with the oilers doesn't interest them. The only way it would is in a package for one of the top 4. It happens in 90% of Edmonton trade threads.
Great post. Oilers trade offers should not appear on HF unless one of the big four want out, or a mild depth move is offered which is kinda pointless on here anyways.

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07-12-2012, 08:38 PM
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To Florida:
Linus Omark
Ryan Whitney
Tyler Pitlick
Oilers 1st Round Pick (2013)

To Edmonton:
Dmitry Kulikov
Keaton Ellerby

Jovanovski + Kulikov/Ellerby for Whitney + magnus + oilers first

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