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07-13-2012, 06:42 PM
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Alex Burmistrov

Just curious what other teams would give up to get him. He has a ton of potential but had a up and down year. He's probably not available but I'm just interested to see what he's worth.

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Nikita Filatov is likely available via trade. Or is he still Sens property?

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Nikita Filatov is likely available via trade. Or is he still Sens property?


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07-13-2012, 07:17 PM
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A ton. I love the kid.

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I'd really love to have him in Phoenix. Something around Rundblad++ ?

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The kid has a tonne of potential. He's only 180 lbs at the moment and should be a beast when he bulks up. I've seen him make some amazing moves against much bigger opponents. He's nowhere near the level but I compare him to Datsyuk in that he has amazing hands. If he can finish his shots and start clicking on some more passes, he'll be AMAZING.

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A ton. I love the kid.

This. I think Burmistrov is a very special player. Huge skill level, great speed, very creative, great attitude and, most importantly, exceptional hockey sense. He's got great defensive awareness & PK ability, so he's not hurting the team even if he's not scoring.


Considering his upside, and the dearth of high-end centremen in the NHL right now, I think his trade value is very, very high. I wouldn't trade him if I were Winnipeg, but in terms of value, I think it's high enough to be the centrepiece for a guy like Weber, Yandle, or Bobby Ryan in a trade.

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The kid has a tonne of potential. He's only 180 lbs at the moment and should be a beast when he bulks up. I've seen him make some amazing moves against much bigger opponents. He's nowhere near the level but I compare him to Datsyuk in that he has amazing hands. If he can finish his shots and start clicking on some more passes, he'll be AMAZING.
Agreed. He plays just like a poor man's Datsyuk. Really incredible young player.

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Winnipeg would be silly to trade him.

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First round pick and (B level prospect/line 2 player or 3/4 defender).

Either don't make sense for the rebuilding Jets.
Burmi is the future 1/2C with Schiefle.

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First round pick and (B level prospect/line 2 player or 3/4 defender).

Either don't make sense for the rebuilding Jets.
Burmi is the future 1/2C with Schiefle.
JVR and Morgan Rielly, in other words.

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Great player, tremendous value. Developing a defensive game very quickly. My only concern is his offensive game seems to be taking longer to develop than I thought. Though, I don't watch him 82 games a season.

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I agree with most of the posts, Burmi has way too much potential to trade away at this point in his career.

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I am not as high on his offensive game as others. I dont see it being top line potential.
But his defensive game is pretty good.

Way to early to give up on him thats forsure

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Will be nice to see his offensive game blossom when he gets consistent time with players who aren't scrubs.

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I wouldn't trade him. I think he cracks 20g and 50pts at least this season.

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Potential >>>>>> Trade Value, for Burmistrov, IMO. I watched a bunch of winnipeg games last year, and Burmistrov looked like the kind of player that could put it together. Very optimistically, I'd say he could go for 70 points in his prime.

I'm not even going to attempt an offer because I'm horrible at proposals.

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The kids a beast on the PK too. He can play "keep away" like nobodies business.

Looking at some advanced stats he was arguably the Jets best penalty-killer.

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Jets fans will probably cry a river but from a neutral perspective

Burmistrov = Kadri + mid/late round pick

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Jets fans will probably cry a river but from a neutral perspective

Burmistrov = Kadri + mid/late round pick


Not even close

What is this based off of?

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Not even close

What is this based off of?
Pretty much what I expected.

In his two years in the league, Burmistorv hasn't done very much. He was clearly rushed, showed some potential, and as a ceiling I could see him being a #2 center.

Take Kadri, hasn't done very much in the NHL, showed some potential at the higher level, was a strong performer in the A, and again, as a ceiling I could see him being a #2 center.

Rush Kadri into the Leafs lineup full time, he would have easily put up equal numbers to Burmistrov.

Every post in this thread cries about Burmistrov's potential as being his selling point on the trade block. Can you honestly say any different about Kadri?

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07-14-2012, 04:08 AM
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Burmi fades pretty hard on the offensive side. He has great skill, but is still wildly inconsistent. I haven't heard much about what he's done this off season, though.

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Pretty much what I expected.

In his two years in the league, Burmistorv hasn't done very much. He was clearly rushed, showed some potential, and as a ceiling I could see him being a #2 center.

Take Kadri, hasn't done very much in the NHL, showed some potential at the higher level, was a strong performer in the A, and again, as a ceiling I could see him being a #2 center.

Rush Kadri into the Leafs lineup full time, he would have easily put up equal numbers to Burmistrov.

Every post in this thread cries about Burmistrov's potential as being his selling point on the trade block. Can you honestly say any different about Kadri?
It's not all about points. Burmi was one of the best defensive forwards on the Jets, while Kadri didn't even play in the same league. At this point, Kadri and Burmi are nowhere near the same level. If Burmi cleans up his play at the blue lines, there is no limit to what he can become. The Datsyuk comparisons are very appropriate IMO.

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07-14-2012, 08:15 AM
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Pretty much what I expected.

In his two years in the league, Burmistorv hasn't done very much. He was clearly rushed, showed some potential, and as a ceiling I could see him being a #2 center.

Take Kadri, hasn't done very much in the NHL, showed some potential at the higher level, was a strong performer in the A, and again, as a ceiling I could see him being a #2 center.

Rush Kadri into the Leafs lineup full time, he would have easily put up equal numbers to Burmistrov.

Every post in this thread cries about Burmistrov's potential as being his selling point on the trade block. Can you honestly say any different about Kadri?
There may not be a better example of rushing a player before he was ready than Burmi. Hopefully it won't impact his long term development, but he should have been dazzling the brass in the prospect camp rather than going into year 3 of his ELC.

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Days yuk didn't hit his prime until his late twenties, I could see it taking him a while to master the NHL game. But if he ever does, look out...

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