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07-14-2012, 02:38 PM
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To EDM: Kulemin, Komisarek

To TOR: Hemsky, Peckham

IMO, Kulemin would be a better compliment to Yakupov than Hemsky playing the off-wing, just as I think Hemsky is the perfect RW for JVR rather than Kulemin potentially dropped to the 3rd line. Komi for Pecks gives the Leafs a cheaper and tougher option for a 6/7 d man, for the Oil it's more about taking a salary back (same term, 500k less than Hemmer).

Thoughts?

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I'm not Hemsky fan and I say Kulemin will have a rebound year.. So I'll have to say no.

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No thanks. I'm hoping Kuli has a bounce back year, and if not, his physical play is better than Hemsky. Then there is Hemsky's history with injury. Komisarek is what he is, but he's still servicable and his contract isn't that horrid.

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Not touching Komisarek

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07-14-2012, 02:52 PM
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I would do this, Hemsky feeding Grabo and JVR for when he isn't injured would be pretty sweet. And when Hemsky is injured, we can have Frattin/Kadri slide up into that slot.

Komi + Peckham in this trade don't add value to either side really.

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07-14-2012, 02:58 PM
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I say no (Oilers fan)

I honestly, truly believe that Hemsky has a decent chance of returning to what he was prior to his injuries - a near PPG player that can take monster hits and produce despite being the focus of defensive attention.

I'd rather let it ride and take a chance at that happening than trade for players with less risk and less upside. I fully understand if fans of other teams don't want Hemsky because of the risk that he poses.

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07-14-2012, 03:00 PM
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To EDM: Kulemin, Komisarek

To TOR: Hemsky, Peckham

IMO, Kulemin would be a better compliment to Yakupov than Hemsky playing the off-wing, just as I think Hemsky is the perfect RW for JVR rather than Kulemin potentially dropped to the 3rd line. Komi for Pecks gives the Leafs a cheaper and tougher option for a 6/7 d man, for the Oil it's more about taking a salary back (same term, 500k less than Hemmer).

Thoughts?
We are trying JVR at center, so that doesn't work and we would be happy to put Kulemin on 3rd, as his style of play fits, and then steps up if JVR is injured. And I'm pretty sure Kulemin is versatile so he can play on both wings. And we already have to much injure-prone, overpaid players so saying politely, no.

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07-14-2012, 03:25 PM
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The combination of Hemsky being truly healthy and not having to play Regehr six times a year anymore implies the Oilers should keep him lol.

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If it was Hemsky for Kulemin straight up, i would do that trade for the Oilers. Kulemin would fit in perfectly into the Oilers top 6, exactly what they need but i don't want any part of Komisarek so no.

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I'd rather hold onto Kulemin. Pass.

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07-14-2012, 04:42 PM
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no one wants Komisarek.

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I hate Hemsky, and I hate Komisarek, but I like Kulemin more then I like Peckham.

That's how I do deals, lol.

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Not interested in Hemsky at any price

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07-14-2012, 06:18 PM
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If it was Hemsky for Kulemin straight up, i would do that trade for the Oilers. Kulemin would fit in perfectly into the Oilers top 6, exactly what they need but i don't want any part of Komisarek so no.
Kulemin> Hemsky and will have a more friendly contract.

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07-14-2012, 06:48 PM
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what about a Komasarik + a mid pick for Peckham.

Toronto seems to be set on getting rid of him and Peckham is one year removed from being a decent up and coming top 4 guy.

The Oilers have cap space to spare and Komasarik could be a decent bottom pairing guy. The mid pick makes it worth the extra money we are spending for a lesser valuable asset.

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07-14-2012, 07:11 PM
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Kulemin> Hemsky and will have a more friendly contract.
Hemsky > Kulemin all day.

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Hemsky > Kulemin all day.
There is no doubt that he is the better player. However, I would be afriad that Hemsky woudld trip over the blueline and be out for half the season.

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07-14-2012, 07:41 PM
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Well, Komi has a NMC.

So it's Hemsky for Kulemin.

I'd do it.

Kulemin-Gagner-Yakupov looks great.

Picking up a responsible 2-way power forward makes sense for a lot of reasons. He's an RFA, so if Edmonton locked him up for 3+ years this deal would be great for Edmonton.

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07-14-2012, 08:29 PM
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I say no (Oilers fan)

I honestly, truly believe that Hemsky has a decent chance of returning to what he was prior to his injuries - a near PPG player that can take monster hits and produce despite being the focus of defensive attention.

I'd rather let it ride and take a chance at that happening than trade for players with less risk and less upside. I fully understand if fans of other teams don't want Hemsky because of the risk that he poses.
I am sorry man, but I have to disagree with you. Even if he plays all 82 games I can't see him getting more than 40-50 tops. He won't be playing 1st line power play anymore, if at all. Unless he plays point on 2nd pairing, I don't see him getting any PP time.

IMO, I think that It will be

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Whitney-J.Schultz

Yakupov-Gagner-Smyth (To park in front of the net)
Petry-Smid/Hemsky?

If he doesn't get any PP time then I really don't see him getting anywhere near a point per game.

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07-14-2012, 08:46 PM
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I am sorry man, but I have to disagree with you. Even if he plays all 82 games I can't see him getting more than 40-50 tops. He won't be playing 1st line power play anymore, if at all. Unless he plays point on 2nd pairing, I don't see him getting any PP time.

IMO, I think that It will be

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Whitney-J.Schultz

Yakupov-Gagner-Smyth (To park in front of the net)
Petry-Smid/Hemsky?

If he doesn't get any PP time then I really don't see him getting anywhere near a point per game.
Hemsky is a stop gap on the oilers until the kids are more capable.
I don't see Hemsky traded until trade deadline the earliest and likely next season if the prospects continue to develop

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07-14-2012, 08:53 PM
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I want to keep Hemsky and see how he is when he is healthy, then teams will be saying oh what do you want for Hemsky, we will give you a 1st and a good prospect, and EDM fans will say no way not even close, he is worth more than that. It will all be forgotten about when he was injured.

That is the way it is in hockey. What have you done for me lately?

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07-14-2012, 08:55 PM
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what about a Komasarik + a mid pick for Peckham.

Toronto seems to be set on getting rid of him and Peckham is one year removed from being a decent up and coming top 4 guy.

The Oilers have cap space to spare and Komasarik could be a decent bottom pairing guy. The mid pick makes it worth the extra money we are spending for a lesser valuable asset.
Peckham will never be a top 4 guys, please, 6th dman or 7th dman.

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07-14-2012, 10:15 PM
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I'd rather hold onto Kulemin. Pass.
Why? I would love to see Kulemin make an exit ...

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07-14-2012, 11:11 PM
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I am sorry man, but I have to disagree with you. Even if he plays all 82 games I can't see him getting more than 40-50 tops. He won't be playing 1st line power play anymore, if at all. Unless he plays point on 2nd pairing, I don't see him getting any PP time.

IMO, I think that It will be

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Whitney-J.Schultz

Yakupov-Gagner-Smyth (To park in front of the net)
Petry-Smid/Hemsky?

If he doesn't get any PP time then I really don't see him getting anywhere near a point per game.
one thing to remember is that Hemsky has never had elite offensive linemates. His most common linemates over the years has been Horcoff and Smyth. He was the offensive catalyst to every line he has ever played with.

Lat year, the kids had chemistry so he did not get them. This year, our top 6 consists of Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yakupov, Gagner, and Hemsky. He will finally have long term qualitly linemates so his scoring could easily exceed his career best.

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