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Souray signed with Ducks for 11 million over 3 years. Glad to hear it! He was nothing but a class act in Hershey.

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Didn't see it mentioned here, but the Bruins signed Exelby to a 1-yr, $600K, 2-way contract today. Poor guy. The concussions really ruined his game.

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Well, based in the recent tweets by McKenzie, Lavoie, and Brooks, it doesn't look good for the season starting kn time. The NHL's proposal is absurd.

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Well, based in the recent tweets by McKenzie, Lavoie, and Brooks, it doesn't look good for the season starting kn time. The NHL's proposal is absurd.
Well lets just hope that is just their opening position where they stated their desired changes in those important areas. The NHLPA can now return with an equally absurd position and then the actual negotiating can begin and hopefully both sides can find something they can live with.

But yeah almost 20% less from revenue, 10 years to UFA status, max of 5 year contracts at all the same rate, and 5 year ELCs is pretty ridiculous.

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Well lets just hope that is just their opening position where they stated their desired changes in those important areas. The NHLPA can now return with an equally absurd position and then the actual negotiating can begin and hopefully both sides can find something they can live with.

But yeah almost 20% less from revenue, 10 years to UFA status, max of 5 year contracts at all the same rate, and 5 year ELCs is pretty ridiculous.
Weirder things have happened, but I can't see the NHL seeing that as anything but dreamland.

I love their attempt at trying to do away with cap bypassing contracts. This NHL practice of knowing the exact issues and coming up with these half ass solutions is getting old. "A what you're paid is what your cap hit is" will never fly. I think that is the best way to handle it, but something like a contract never dropping below 50% of the highest year seems fair. It does allow some flexibility, but shouldn't allow this ******** of contracts dropping around 9 million. A length limit could help also, but I'm not to sure where each side stands on that and how feasible it is.

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I haven't seen any talk of rule or enforcement changes with the new CBA, which is a little disappointing. I was hoping we might see a renewed commitment to enforcement, the way we did after the last lockout, and a corresponding uptick in scoring.

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For all intents and purposes, Brooks is an NHLPA mouthpiece. He's clearly picked which side of the issue he's on. The NHL is facing Don Fehr, it has to come in guns blazing if it wants get a deal that's in any way favorable to the league.

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I haven't seen any talk of rule or enforcement changes with the new CBA, which is a little disappointing. I was hoping we might see a renewed commitment to enforcement, the way we did after the last lockout, and a corresponding uptick in scoring.
The rules coming out of the lock out were because of the NHL, the NHLPA had no say in them.

The scariest thing about this new CBA is the fact the representing players probably average out to below 1m in salary.

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Well lets just hope that is just their opening position where they stated their desired changes in those important areas. The NHLPA can now return with an equally absurd position and then the actual negotiating can begin and hopefully both sides can find something they can live with.

But yeah almost 20% less from revenue, 10 years to UFA status, max of 5 year contracts at all the same rate, and 5 year ELCs is pretty ridiculous.
I could not agree more with this statement. The NHL is completely disrespecting its players with a proposal like that. Could you imagine being a rookie being put on a team such as the Columbus Blue Jackets, who have had very little success as a franchise, and not being an UFA for 10 years of your career?

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I was thinking about this before, why don't they give "home" teams an advantage of say only 90% of the contract counts against the cap? That way you don't need to make players 10 year indentured servants to a team, but you still give teams that draft well a sizeable advantage. Just a thought..

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I was thinking about this before, why don't they give "home" teams an advantage of say only 90% of the contract counts against the cap? That way you don't need to make players 10 year indentured servants to a team, but you still give teams that draft well a sizeable advantage. Just a thought..
Interesting. I'm not sure how I feel about a team being able to pay extra to a star but remain closer to a team imposed salary cap. Helping a team keep a superstar could be a move that helps it become profitable and spend more I guess.

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I was thinking about this before, why don't they give "home" teams an advantage of say only 90% of the contract counts against the cap? That way you don't need to make players 10 year indentured servants to a team, but you still give teams that draft well a sizeable advantage. Just a thought..
As a side effect, though, you'd either be hurting the trade value of your home grown players or you'd be setting up a system whereby sign-and-trades a la NBA become more prevalent, depending on how you deal with contracts that are signed with the draft team but then moved elsewhere.

But I like the concept in general.

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Stop the insanity, vote for Nicky!

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The Karlsson insanity is leaking everywhere on that team. Spezza is an above average center but not top five. Nicky is.

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The Karlsson insanity is leaking everywhere on that team. Spezza is an above average center but not top five. Nicky is.
No its the vicious circle.

Ovechkin sucks, he's only good cause Backstrom!

Backstrom sucks, hes only good cause Ovechkin!

Semin sucks, hes only good cause Ovechkin and Backstrom!

Green, oh he's Canadian, he means everything to that teams offense, but he sucks defensively!

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Well, based in the recent tweets by McKenzie, Lavoie, and Brooks, it doesn't look good for the season starting kn time. The NHL's proposal is absurd.
To me its about time the owners took a stand. They are the ones taking 99% of the risk.

But you are right about the season...Fehr+Owner's initial proposal+clueless players+owners who can't control themselves=Long long abrasive talks

No season next year is my thought

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Quincey, 3.75AAV..... Yikes.

I'm scared as to what Carlson will get.

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To me its about time the owners took a stand. They are the ones taking 99% of the risk.

But you are right about the season...Fehr+Owner's initial proposal+clueless players+owners who can't control themselves=Long long abrasive talks

No season next year is my thought
Maybe they could follow a Marxist model. All the owners wouldn't actually own a specific team. They would each own 1/30 of a share. That way no one would lose money.

Just thinking outside the box.

I'm resigned to either a short season or no season. Off to Sweden, or Switzerland or St. Petersburg or some such. What is the time difference and do they stream their games?


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Maybe they could follow a Marxist model. All the owners wouldn't actually own a specific team. They would each own 1/30 of a share. That way no one would lose money.

Just thinking outside the box.
All the players would get paid the same with maybe a bit more for each year played in the NHL. I think that would work out to about 3-4 mil each.

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Quincey, 3.75AAV..... Yikes.

I'm scared as to what Carlson will get.
Yeah but Detroit doesn't have Fishman. bwaa ha ha

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Quincey, 3.75AAV..... Yikes.

I'm scared as to what Carlson will get.
Quincey had filed for arbitration.

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Breaking: Shea Weber agrees to offer sheet with Philadelphia. 14 years, upwards of $100 mil. Preds have 7 days to match. Wow!!

OMG.

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Well, I think the preds will match that...

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