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Ales Hemsky To Pittsburgh

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07-14-2012, 02:08 PM
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Don't want him and I wouldn't give Tangradi up for him.

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07-14-2012, 04:46 PM
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Don't want him and I wouldn't give Tangradi up for him.
well thats just dumb. Id take hemskey playing half seasons for the next 5 years for tangradi lol.

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Don't want him and I wouldn't give Tangradi up for him.
Edmonton have enough AHL wingers today, so no need for Tangradi.

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I can't believe people are still talking in this topic. Pitts fans want Hemsky but figure he is not worth anything.

Topic done, I can't wait until Hemsky comes back healthy and has his .78 points per game average or a bit higher. These are the 5 players that Hemsky will be playing with next year:
Hall, RNH, Eberle, Yak, and Gagner.
You have to like that.
where did you get that impression? Because ONE fan posted a topic, now we all want him? The consensus of most pens fans seems to be, "if he's cheap we'll take him," not "we need him, give him to us for free."

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I think something around Hemsky for Martin makes sense for both teams.
Not really.

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07-14-2012, 05:16 PM
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Not really.
Yep. Not after they ship out Michalek and don't get in on any of the top UFA D-man. Pens are stuck with'em for the time being.

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07-14-2012, 06:32 PM
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Based on what, exactly? The expectations of impatient fans who don't understand that waiver-eligible players have to blow people away to earn a roster spot on a contender?
Based on the fact that he has yet to have a role with our team. Proven talent (Hemsky) is much more valuable to us at this point then possible talent. If Hemsky comes here, he'd play in the top 6 and put up at least 50 points (I'd say that's a reasonable number). If we stick with Tangradi, there's an off-chance that he'll cement a role in our top 6, and it's highly unlikely that he'll crack 50 pts.

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07-14-2012, 07:21 PM
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Yep. Not after they ship out Michalek and don't get in on any of the top UFA D-man. Pens are stuck with'em for the time being.
That. Plus there is the risk factor. Which is more likely: Martin playing solid hockey or Hemsky just playing?

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07-14-2012, 09:46 PM
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That. Plus there is the risk factor. Which is more likely: Martin playing solid hockey or Hemsky just playing?
Martin playing hockey in general would be a good start

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07-15-2012, 02:39 AM
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Based on the fact that he has yet to have a role with our team. Proven talent (Hemsky) is much more valuable to us at this point then possible talent. If Hemsky comes here, he'd play in the top 6 and put up at least 50 points (I'd say that's a reasonable number). If we stick with Tangradi, there's an off-chance that he'll cement a role in our top 6, and it's highly unlikely that he'll crack 50 pts.
By God, a 23 year old prospect who hasn't cracked an NHL line-up yet?

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07-15-2012, 04:27 AM
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By God, a 23 year old prospect who hasn't cracked an NHL line-up yet?
Is he waiver eligible? Was he last year? At 23 unless he came through the college ranks you'd have to think that the shine is coming off a bit wouldn't you? If we were to trade Hemsky we'd need something tangible for him not a prospect.

EDIT-He came through the CHL, will be waiver eligible this season and this is his career NHL stat line: 40gp. 1-4-5 26pim.

Ummmm how about NOOOOOOO?

At this point he's on the verge of becoming a career AHLer, the Oilers who are stacked at forward would need to keep him on the roster ahead of guys that have fared far better in the NHL and are younger in Paajarvi and Hartikainen on the farm so as to not chance losing him for nothing. Unless we are looking for a straight cap dump (we're not, if we were we would've let him walk/traded him for peanuts last deadline) this trade makes 0 sense for the Oilers no matter how much you pump Tangradi's tires.

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07-15-2012, 10:13 AM
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Is he waiver eligible? Was he last year? At 23 unless he came through the college ranks you'd have to think that the shine is coming off a bit wouldn't you? If we were to trade Hemsky we'd need something tangible for him not a prospect.

EDIT-He came through the CHL, will be waiver eligible this season and this is his career NHL stat line: 40gp. 1-4-5 26pim.

Ummmm how about NOOOOOOO?

At this point he's on the verge of becoming a career AHLer, the Oilers who are stacked at forward would need to keep him on the roster ahead of guys that have fared far better in the NHL and are younger in Paajarvi and Hartikainen on the farm so as to not chance losing him for nothing. Unless we are looking for a straight cap dump (we're not, if we were we would've let him walk/traded him for peanuts last deadline) this trade makes 0 sense for the Oilers no matter how much you pump Tangradi's tires.
You came in late to the show friend, and missed the sequence of posts. I was only addressing the poster's comment "Tangradi appears that he'll never get a chance [in Pittsburgh]", and said nothing about moving him for Hemsky. In fact, I'd rather keep Tangradi, so you don't need to dissuade me from any deal centered around the two.

It's notoriously difficult for young, waiver-eligible players to crack the Pens line-up because a) the Pens are a contender and b) Bylsma heavily favours experienced veterans. Tangradi's injuries (severed thumb tendon, concussion thanks to Trevor Gillies) and necessary recovery time also prolonged his development.

I'd prefer the Pens hang onto him since he was finally healthy and produced well last season, we could use his size, physicality, and net presence, and there's no longer any easy way to send him back down to the minors. So we're both happy with the non-trade.

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07-15-2012, 10:50 AM
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Toronto will trade Pittsburgh one of CMac or Connolly shortly after we sort out if JVR can play center and when Kadri makes the jump to the NHL a permanent thing.

CMac is a winger and Connolly although a natural center can also play the wing.

A 2nd rounder plus project prospect OR 3rd/4th rounder sounds about right.

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07-15-2012, 10:51 AM
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Toronto will trade Pittsburgh one of CMac or Connolly shortly after we sort out if JVR can play center and when Kadri makes the jump to the NHL a permanent thing.

CMac is a winger and Connolly although a natural center can also play the wing.

A 2nd rounder plus project prospect OR 3rd/4th rounder sounds about right.
Not really interested in MacArthur and definitely don't want Connolly.

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