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02-28-2012, 03:06 PM
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My list pretty much agrees with ponders but i have colborne ranked at the frattin level.

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02-28-2012, 03:15 PM
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If Gardiner graduates, then my top 5 would look something like this:

1. Kadri
2. Colborne
3. Ashton
4. Frattin
5. Blacker

If not, then Gardiner is #1 and everyone else is bumped down a spot.

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02-28-2012, 04:22 PM
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I'll put Jake Gardiner as a graduated.

1. Nazem Kadri
2. Carter Ashton
3. Joe Colborne
4. Matt Frattin
5. Tyler Biggs
6. Brad Ross
7. Stuart Percy
8. Jesse Blacker
9. Korbinian Holzer
10. Nicolas Deschamps
11. Ben Scrivens
12. Greg McKegg
13. Jerry D'Amigo
14. Josh Leivo
15. Marcel Mueller
16. Josh Nicholls
17. Daniel Brodin
18. Andrew Crescenzi
19. Garret Sparks
20. Greg Scott


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02-28-2012, 07:40 PM
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I don't know how people can place Holzer so low when a large part of the reason we traded Aulie was because Holzer had passed him on the depth chart.

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02-28-2012, 07:43 PM
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i wouldnt even place percy or biggs in the top ten. Switch them with meuller/damigo or deschamps

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02-28-2012, 07:51 PM
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I don't know how people can place Holzer so low when a large part of the reason we traded Aulie was because Holzer had passed him on the depth chart.
Holzer didn't pass Aulie, he just make him expandable.

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02-28-2012, 07:52 PM
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Holzer didn't pass Aulie, he just make him expandable.
imho he passed him, played MUCH better in the AHL

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02-28-2012, 07:55 PM
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imho he passed him, played MUCH better in the AHL
Yeah, maybe. Holzer is very solid, but I'd still take Aulie before him.

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02-28-2012, 08:05 PM
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I still think Nasty Naz is our #1

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02-28-2012, 08:06 PM
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i wouldnt even place percy or biggs in the top ten. Switch them with meuller/damigo or deschamps
Is this your first day on the "prospect" scene?

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02-28-2012, 08:21 PM
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Holzer didn't pass Aulie, he just make him expandable.
Toronto and multiple other teams have said that Holzer is the most NHL-ready defenceman on the Marlies and deserved a spot in the NHL.

From what it sounds like, Holzer was in much higher demand from teams than Aulie was.

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02-28-2012, 09:03 PM
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My top 25:

1. Jake Gardiner
2. Nazem Kadri
3. Joe Colborne
4. Carter Ashton
5. Matt Frattin
6. Jesse Blacker
7. Tyler Biggs
8. Joshua Leivo
9. Brad Ross
10. Stuart Percy
11. Korbinian Holzer
12. Nicolas Deschamps
13. Mark Owuya
14. Jerry D'Amigo
15. Greg McKegg
16. Ben Scrivens
17. Marcel Mueller
18. Tom Nilsson
19. Garret Sparks
20. Sondre Olden
21. Josh Nicholls
22. Jussi Rynnas
23. Tony Cameranesi
24. Daniel Brodin
25. Juraj Mikus
Good list. The top 10 is pretty much same with me, maybe Leivo goes to 11 but it's not a stretch by any means. But Scrivens has to go Top-10. Rynnas for me is a little higher overall and Brodin is higher than Cameranesi. But damn, otherwise identical prospect lists.

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02-28-2012, 09:21 PM
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This one is easy

1. Gardiner
2. Frattin
3. Colborne
4. Ashton
5. Kadri
6. McKegg
7. Blacker
8. D'Amigo
9. Biggs
10. Percy
11. Ross
12. Scrivens
13. Holzer
14. Ryan
15. Olden
16. Sparks
17. Leivo
18. Owuya
19. Broll
20. Devane
21. Mueller
22. Brenner
23. Mikus
24. Crescenzi
25. Dechamps

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02-28-2012, 09:25 PM
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right now the way the leafs are playing I have the a Japanese bantam team ranked higher than the TML!!!!!!!! Maybe we should put a tim hortons cup in net and see if it can stop anything, and maybe.............just maybe we could rrrrrrrrroll up the rim and win a goalie and a new coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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07-17-2012, 09:45 AM
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On one hand, Ashton looked pretty poor offensively in his showing with Toronto, and seems more disposable than Frattin, but then Ashton is 3-4 years younger, which means he has a lot of room to grow as a raw rookie, so maybe you don't want to ship him out.

On the other other hand, we have Biggs, Devane, Ross, Leivo in that 2nd-3rd line winger role with size and/or aggressiveness in the same age group, so it's not like he'd be a huge loss.

On the other other other hand, Bernier could be a franchise goalie, so all of it is a small price to pay and an acceptable risk.

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07-17-2012, 09:54 AM
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i would remove Gardiner, and throw Morgan Rielly and Matt Finn up there already

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My top 25:

1. Jake Gardiner
2. Nazem Kadri
3. Joe Colborne
4. Carter Ashton
5. Matt Frattin
6. Jesse Blacker
7. Tyler Biggs
8. Joshua Leivo
9. Brad Ross
10. Stuart Percy
11. Korbinian Holzer
12. Nicolas Deschamps
13. Mark Owuya
14. Jerry D'Amigo
15. Greg McKegg
16. Ben Scrivens
17. Marcel Mueller
18. Tom Nilsson
19. Garret Sparks
20. Sondre Olden
21. Josh Nicholls
22. Jussi Rynnas
23. Tony Cameranesi
24. Daniel Brodin
25. Juraj Mikus

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07-17-2012, 11:06 AM
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I keep hearing "0 points in 15 games" from everyone.

It sounds like he might need a lot more time with the Marlies and he won't be a good trade piece to land Bernier. I saw a little bit of him on the Marlies and he didn't seem to be a difference maker.

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07-17-2012, 11:13 AM
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Kind of funny how so many had him in the top 5 when we acquire him, but now we've got him around #10 according to the prospect poll: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1231675

Funny the effect actually watching a prospect has on evaluations

I think it's probably an unfair swing in the other direction given Ashton was thrown onto a team in a tailspin and then got injured during his time with the Marlies. 19 goals in 56 games with Norfolk is still very impressive for a 20 year old, so his offense may come around eventually. It appeared to me that he will max out as a very physical 3rd-liner and there's nothing wrong with that, but there's plenty of development ahead for a 21 year old. A full year with the Marlies could do him wonders all around.

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07-17-2012, 11:20 AM
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Power forwards take time to develop, Ashton is still a kid.

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07-17-2012, 11:21 AM
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Just my opinion - regardless of what anyone says i think we can be all satisfied with out top 10 farm system with the potential to be top 5. Burke has done so much to make not only our team better but also our farm system one of the best. He has traded for 3 of our top 5 prospects in Gardiner, Colbourne and Ashton in the last year. Very impressive.
BOOM.

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07-17-2012, 11:50 AM
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Yeah, maybe. Holzer is very solid, but I'd still take Aulie before him.
I'll second that , hands down decision for me.

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07-17-2012, 11:54 AM
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This one is easy

1. Gardiner
2. Frattin
3. Colborne
4. Ashton
5. Kadri
6. McKegg
7. Blacker
8. D'Amigo
9. Biggs
10. Percy
11. Ross
12. Scrivens
13. Holzer
14. Ryan
15. Olden
16. Sparks
17. Leivo
18. Owuya
19. Broll
20. Devane
21. Mueller
22. Brenner
23. Mikus
24. Crescenzi
25. Dechamps
With passed on Olden and didn't sign him so he dosn't even belong to us anymore and Mikus fled to Europe.

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With passed on Olden and didn't sign him so he dosn't even belong to us anymore and Mikus fled to Europe.
Check dates, yo.

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07-17-2012, 12:21 PM
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Ashton is a long term project. He is an NHLer in terms of being dependable and not being a liability on the ice, but not an asset in terms of any production. He is still rather lanky for a PF and should bulk up a bunch.

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07-17-2012, 12:33 PM
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My top 8, Might have missed a few. *Not including Gardiner
  1. Nazem Kadri
  2. Joe Colborne
  3. Colborne
  4. Ashton
  5. Frattin
  6. Holzer
  7. Blacker
  8. Biggs

You could probably switch Biggs and Holzer.

IMO Owuya is our best goalie prospect. Hope we can sign Joacim Eriksson though.
you think Colborne is that good he gets spots 2 and 3?

or maybe he has a twin....

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