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07-17-2012, 05:18 AM
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you really are a Hawks fan???

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07-17-2012, 10:23 AM
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This whole post is nonsense.

First, if Stalberg does "figure it out" - as it seems you don't approve his past season - he will be even better than a 20 goal guy, right? Teams develop players, and if they succeed in the system they try to keep them. That's what they call a "fit". I'm all for trading him for an upgrade, but only because he has value that you don't acknowledge

The comparison to Forlik is so off I'll not even comment other than to say they are not comparable players in any sense.

And for Stalberg to be Skille 2.0, Skille would have to be an impact player first. He's a nothing, a 5th draft pick trade-value guy. Dude has 17 career goals and 6% shooting%.
Sorry, but I am not convinced Stalberg turned a corner last year. 20 goals and 40 points is generally a nice milestone, but when you look at 2/3rds of his point coming against nonplayoff teams and 1/4 against Columbus...it is less impressive.

My comparison to Frolick is the real potential that Stalberg's 40 point season could very well be an outlier much like Frolick being a 2 time 20 goal 40 point guy in back to back seasons as a 20 & 21 year old.

Last my comparison to Skille is the type of player more so then the results as Jack clear has not had results (but then neither has Stalberg other then last season). Both Skille and Stalberg have displayed suspect hockey sense.

Call it nonsense...but I am not convinced Stalberg is anything more then a 3rd liner on his best day for a legit cup contender.

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Stalberg is a much more skilled hockey player than Frolik. He is a better skater and has a much better shot.

Last season may have been a fluke for Stalberg but I think he can, at least, duplicate his point total.

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07-17-2012, 12:59 PM
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I can't stand people who discredit players for putting up points against weaker teams.

If it's so easy..how come Kane hasn't hit 100pts in a season yet?

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Sorry, but I am not convinced Stalberg turned a corner last year. 20 goals and 40 points is generally a nice milestone, but when you look at 2/3rds of his point coming against nonplayoff teams and 1/4 against Columbus...it is less impressive.
I'm bored...

Stalberg's splits stats (games played in ( )):
Teams in bold are playoff teams.

10 pts: CBJ (6)
3 pts: CAL (4), MIN (4), NSH (6), VAN (4)
2 pts: ANA (4), DAL (2), LAK (4), MTL (1), PHO (4), PIT (1), SJS (4), STL (6)
1 pt: COL (4), DET (6), EDM (4), FLO (2), WSH (1)
0 pt: BOS (1), BUF (1), CAR (1), NJD (1), NYI (2), NYR (2), OTT (1), PHI (1), TBL (1), TOR (1)

Points against NON-PLAYOFF Teams: 24 pts in 32 games (0.75 pt/game) (55.8% of his total production)
Points against PLAYOFF Teams: 19 pts in 47 games (0.40 pt/game) (44.2% of his total production)

In my opinion, 2/3rd of his points would be 67%... I guess you're wrong on that statement.

Stalberg also played 68.1% of his games against playoff teams...

What's fun with stats is the fact that you can manipulate them and use them the way you want.

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07-17-2012, 03:22 PM
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I'm bored...

Stalberg's splits stats (games played in ( )):
Teams in bold are playoff teams.

10 pts: CBJ (6)
3 pts: CAL (4), MIN (4), NSH (6), VAN (4)
2 pts: ANA (4), DAL (2), LAK (4), MTL (1), PHO (4), PIT (1), SJS (4), STL (6)
1 pt: COL (4), DET (6), EDM (4), FLO (2), WSH (1)
0 pt: BOS (1), BUF (1), CAR (1), NJD (1), NYI (2), NYR (2), OTT (1), PHI (1), TBL (1), TOR (1)

Points against NON-PLAYOFF Teams: 24 pts in 32 games (0.75 pt/game) (55.8% of his total production)
Points against PLAYOFF Teams: 19 pts in 47 games (0.40 pt/game) (44.2% of his total production)

In my opinion, 2/3rd of his points would be 67%... I guess you're wrong on that statement.

Stalberg also played 68.1% of his games against playoff teams...

What's fun with stats is the fact that you can manipulate them and use them the way you want.
Was I at least close at 1/4 of his points came against the worst team in the league?

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I can't stand people who discredit players for putting up points against weaker teams.

If it's so easy..how come Kane hasn't hit 100pts in a season yet?
You really want to compare a point per playoff game guy (in over 50 games) against a guy with 3 playoff points?

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when did he say this or did this?

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