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07-18-2012, 03:29 PM
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This is a great deal now, and I think it's quickly going to become a great deal as the next two seasons progress.

Not to get too far ahead of myself, but it looks OB may have been a late bloomer, as it apeared he was starting to come into his own towards the end of the season (and into the playoffs). He can skate and find openings, and I think he's going to provide some home grown secondary scoring depth.

That is a great deal for the Sens.

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Guaranteed money to a scrub 4th liner isn't really neccesary
I'm not meaning to be rude... but normally I am a master of decoding sarcasm. I never have a clue with you. Is this sarcastic?

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Some do, some don't.

A lot of people seem to think a 2 way contract makes you waiver exempt no matter what.
I call it NHL 12 syndrome. Everyone thinks a two way means you can move up and down at will because they simplified it for the game.

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I'm not meaning to be rude... but normally I am a master of decoding sarcasm. I never have a clue with you. Is this sarcastic?
O'brien will be a first liner for years to come. Players like him aern't easily replaceable.

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07-18-2012, 03:47 PM
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I like O'Brien.

He's earned an NHL job. Very solid player. Underrated skill.

I'm very happy for him, and I look forward to seeing what he can do with a full time spot.

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The guy's worth less than Mike Hoffman. Waste of money.

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The guy's worth less than Mike Hoffman. Waste of money.
Where's the sarcasm smiley?

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Where's the sarcasm smiley?
It's true. Mike Hoffman was more popular in the prospect polls we just did.

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It's true. Mike Hoffman was more popular in the prospect polls we just did.
Must be why we didn't keep Lee he was higher then Karlsson in the prospect polls we did.

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It's true. Mike Hoffman was more popular in the prospect polls we just did.
Hoffman's extreme upside is much higher then JOB. JOB is more likely to reach his potential though.

I have a feeling you're just being cheeky but still.

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It's true. Mike Hoffman was more popular in the prospect polls we just did.
Erik Karlsson finished behind Brian Lee in our 2008 prospect pool, doesn't mean Brian Lee is better...

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Good move here. The guy's not a star but he's a solid member of our bottom 6 forwards.

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When they let konopka go it was pretty obvious JOB was getting a 1 way.

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Hoffman's extreme upside is much higher then JOB. JOB is more likely to reach his potential though.

I have a feeling you're just being cheeky but still.

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Good kid, hard worker..Made a lot of positive progress during his time in Binghamton.

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JOB's cool with me since that drop pass on Turris' overtime snipe

if a coach who holds players accountable is putting you on the ice in overtime, you deserve to be in the NHL

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Nice, I like it. JOB is kind of a poor man's Foligno.

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The only way a 2 way contract matters now is if your last name is Melnyk.

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Or Kickabrat.

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If I was a scout, I'd have a really hard time trying to figure out O'Brien. He is such a weird prospect to project.

For one, he was originally a defenseman and gets switched to centre.

Secondly, he goes from USNTDP to the University of Minnesota and then to the WHL. After two seasons he moves to the AHL where he bombs. Next year? Great season and helps team into Calder Cup. No one could have predicted it.

Third, although he was drafted in the 2007 draft, but he's still a 1989 birthdate. Which makes him less than a year older than guys from the 2009 draft's 1st round like Kadri and Schroeder. That makes me wonder if he still has room to grow even more.

I can't think of a single other NHLer who has had a similar progression.


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If I was a scout, I'd have a really hard time trying to figure out O'Brien. He is such a weird prospect to project.

For one, he was originally a defenseman and gets switched to centre.

Secondly, he goes from USNTDP to the University of Minnesota and then to the WHL. After two seasons he moves to the AHL where he bombs. Next year? Great season and helps team into Calder Cup. No one could have predicted it.

Third, although he was drafted in the 2007 draft, but he's still a 1989 birthdate. Which makes him less than a year older than guys from the 2009 draft's 1st round like Kadri and Schroeder. That makes me wonder if he still has room to grow even more.

I can't think of a single other NHLer who has had a similar progression.
Know what you mean. At every level he plays, it seems to take JOB a season or two to "get it". In every league he's played in he's gotten significantly better as time has worn on. I'm hoping it'll be the same in the NHL.

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If I was a scout, I'd have a really hard time trying to figure out O'Brien. He is such a weird prospect to project.

For one, he was originally a defenseman and gets switched to centre.

Secondly, he goes from USNTDP to the University of Minnesota and then to the WHL. After two seasons he moves to the AHL where he bombs. Next year? Great season and helps team into Calder Cup. No one could have predicted it.

Third, although he was drafted in the 2007 draft, but he's still a 1989 birthdate. Which makes him less than a year older than guys from the 2009 draft's 1st round like Kadri and Schroeder. That makes me wonder if he still has room to grow even more.

I can't think of a single other NHLer who has had a similar progression.
I still think his skill set is more suited to be a defenseman. Its too bad he was developed as a center but clearly its worked out for him. He could have been top 4 material.

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I still think his skill set is more suited to be a defenseman. Its too bad he was developed as a center but clearly its worked out for him. He could have been top 4 material.
Agreed.

On the plus side he could become one of the dominant defensive forwards in the NHL imo. You can't teach his defensive hockey sense. He's just such a great PKer, seems to be able to read 1 or 2 steps ahead of the PP.

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i could be remembering this wrong, but I thought JOB was a center who got moved to defense to get more playing time during his freshman year, and then moved back to center after being drafted by the sens.

edit: nvm, looked it up.

Grew up a dman
Center in high school
Dman in freshman year
Center after that.

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If I was a scout, I'd have a really hard time trying to figure out O'Brien. He is such a weird prospect to project.

For one, he was originally a defenseman and gets switched to centre.

Secondly, he goes from USNTDP to the University of Minnesota and then to the WHL. After two seasons he moves to the AHL where he bombs. Next year? Great season and helps team into Calder Cup. No one could have predicted it.

Third, although he was drafted in the 2007 draft, but he's still a 1989 birthdate. Which makes him less than a year older than guys from the 2009 draft's 1st round like Kadri and Schroeder. That makes me wonder if he still has room to grow even more.

I can't think of a single other NHLer who has had a similar progression.
He wasn't a D-man, he was a sparsely used freshman forward who started getting reps on the point on the PP and then some time as a D-man to get him ice time.

He switched to the WHL to get that ice time, where he became an important offensive player for them.

I've been projecting him as a 3rd RW or 4th C for awhile. I like his heavy shot, size and skating. However, I question his ability to see the ice well enough to move up the lineup as a C.

In a career season, I wouldn't be surprised to see a Cy Young type 20-10-30... Or something along those lines.

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