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07-18-2012, 03:41 PM
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I'm leaning 70/30 Quebec over Buffalo. He's got a lot of filling out to do and with their track record of usually taking a slow cooking approach with their prospects, he'll have to wow them to win the spot out of camp. Not that he can't, especially if he finds some early chemistry with one of Pominville or Vanek in the early week of camp.
I anticipate him getting the tryout to open the season before returning to Juniors.

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So, where do you expect him to play next season?
I think he belongs in Québec again next season, but then again, the organization has said that he'll be given every opportunity to make the NHL, so my opinion will be met with resistance.

Come on people who have hardly seen him play (if at all), tell me I'm wrong!

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I think he belongs in Québec again next season, but then again, the organization has said that he'll be given every opportunity to make the NHL, so my opinion will be met with resistance.

Come on people who have hardly seen him play (if at all), tell me I'm wrong!
Oh, I think he'll likely land in Quebec once again (thus 70). It's on him to make the physical improvements in the next two months to at least make the choice difficult at the start of the year. If he does, great. If he doesn't... that's great too, since he goes back to a place he knows, with high-skill linemates and a coach who is bringing out untapped parts of his game. Go, dominate, break it off up certain aspects of the scouting press world's backside. It's all good.

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Still no press conference audio/video?

Was there even an actual presser?

Edit: It's actually on sabres.com, my mistake.

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I just heard on TV that Grigorenko's agent said he would be attending Quebec's camp in August. Of course, he'll likely stay there until there's a new agreement between the NHL and its players.

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I just heard on TV that Grigorenko's agent said he would be attending Quebec's camp in August. Of course, he'll likely stay there until there's a new agreement between the NHL and its players.
I like how Roy will have a little dilemma with his Euro players.

I don't think it's gonna be a hard decision though.

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I like how Roy will have a little dilemma with his Euro players.

I don't think it's gonna be a hard decision though.
I think it will.

Sorensen is going to be a 1st rounder in 2013 and can still play two-three seasons with the team. He'll never have full value for him I think.

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I think he belongs in Québec again next season, but then again, the organization has said that he'll be given every opportunity to make the NHL, so my opinion will be met with resistance.

Come on people who have hardly seen him play (if at all), tell me I'm wrong!
Congrats...you have an opinion..... Any reason to invite flaming?

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I'm leaning 70/30 Quebec over Buffalo. He's got a lot of filling out to do and with their track record of usually taking a slow cooking approach with their prospects, he'll have to wow them to win the spot out of camp. Not that he can't, especially if he finds some early chemistry with one of Pominville or Vanek in the early week of camp.
Sounds about right to me, for now. If he puts on some decent muscle between now and autumn and/or wows at camp, those odds could flip the other way. But I'd definitely think Quebec seems more likely atm.

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I think it will.

Sorensen is going to be a 1st rounder in 2013 and can still play two-three seasons with the team. He'll never have full value for him I think.
I think one year of Grigorenko at 18 and Kucherov at 19 with a previous history of chemistry is better than one year of Grigorenko and likely at most two years of Sörensen (since he's a '94), who is relatively unproven at this point and coming off an awful injury.

The rumors that they were very interested in Kucherov in 2011 make me think that they'll want him instead of their Plan B that year (Sörensen), too.

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I think one year of Grigorenko at 18 and Kucherov at 19 with a previous history of chemistry is better than one year of Grigorenko and likely at most two years of Sörensen (since he's a '94), who is relatively unproven at this point and coming off an awful injury.

The rumors that they were very interested in Kucherov in 2011 make me think that they'll want him instead of their Plan B that year (Sörensen), too.
I also believe Sorensen will be the one to go, but I don't think it will be an easy decision. Sorensen is very committed to Quebec. He spent only 2 months in Sweden this summer and he's already back in Quebec. He's also taking french classes.

Thinking about Grigorenko, when he plays in the Russia-Canada series in August, it will be the 1st time he goes back to Russia since August 2011... And they say he's a flight risk...

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I also believe Sorensen will be the one to go, but I don't think it will be an easy decision. Sorensen is very committed to Quebec. He spent only 2 months in Sweden this summer and he's already back in Quebec. He's also taking french classes.

Thinking about Grigorenko, when he plays in the Russia-Canada series in August, it will be the 1st time he goes back to Russia since August 2011... And they say he's a flight risk...

Flight risk? ... To bolt to Russia?

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Flight risk? ... To bolt to Russia?
What I mean is that several people says there's a risk he might bolt to Russia... but he has not return to his home country for a year and he wouldn't go back this year if it wasn't for the Russia-Canada challenge.

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I also believe Sorensen will be the one to go, but I don't think it will be an easy decision. Sorensen is very committed to Quebec. He spent only 2 months in Sweden this summer and he's already back in Quebec. He's also taking french classes.

Thinking about Grigorenko, when he plays in the Russia-Canada series in August, it will be the 1st time he goes back to Russia since August 2011... And they say he's a flight risk...
Not sure if sarcastic about flight risk or unaware there are rules now to prevent that sort of thing.

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What I mean is that several people says there's a risk he might bolt to Russia... but he has not return to his home country for a year and he wouldn't go back this year if it wasn't for the Russia-Canada challenge.
Um..... if he wanted to "bolt" to Russia...he could leave anytime he wishes... Why would he have to wait till the Russia-Canada series? .. This isn't Cuba...or Communist Soviet Union...

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You are all missing the point by quite a bit

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Then please explain, Doctor.


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Sorry if you don't really understand what I'm trying to say. People says there's a risk he might bolt to KHL(Before his new contract or after). However, he hasn't even gone back during his free time in April-May. It tells a lot about his commitment to North America. And like I said, if it wasn't for the challenge, he wouldn't go back there for another year. I'm talking about him going back home to see family and spend some time at home during the off season. He prefered staying here during his mono and to prepare for the NHL during summer. He isn't even going back home during his free time, so KHL must be really far in his mind.

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I also believe Sorensen will be the one to go, but I don't think it will be an easy decision. Sorensen is very committed to Quebec. He spent only 2 months in Sweden this summer and he's already back in Quebec. He's also taking french classes.

Thinking about Grigorenko, when he plays in the Russia-Canada series in August, it will be the 1st time he goes back to Russia since August 2011... And they say he's a flight risk...
Yeah, it's unfortunate that they'll likely have to let him go, but it's just a part of the business I guess.
Kucherov and Grigorenko probably give them a better chance to win this season and I don't know if Kucherov would report anywhere else, so he probably has less value in a trade.

Smart decision for him to take French classes though, since they'll be useful even if he's traded to a Maritime team.

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Then please explain, Doctor.
Grigorenko was called a flight risk by the talking heads that look for any excuse to criticize Russians players, yet he hasn't been back to Russia in almost a year.

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Sorry if you don't really understand what I'm trying to say. People says there's a risk he might bolt to KHL(Before his new contract or after). However, he hasn't even gone back during his free time in April-May. It tells a lot about his commitment to North America. And like I said, if it wasn't for the challenge, he wouldn't go back there for another year. I'm talking about him going back home to see family and spend some time at home during the off season. He prefered staying here during his mono and to prepare for the NHL during summer. He isn't even going back home during his free time, so KHL must be really far in his mind.

Yeah. I didn't get the jist what you were saying the first time. My bad.

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