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Weber signed to offer sheet (TSN: 14 yrs, 110m, cap hit $7.8m per yr.)

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07-19-2012, 01:28 AM
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Holy ****ing ****, yes yes yes. I love this. I really hope Nashville doesn't match this.

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The offseason has begun. Welcome to Homer land.

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That is the compensation in such cases:

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...-offer-sheets/

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From The Globe:

Here are the draft pick compensation figures for the 2012-13 season:

$1,110,249 or below – No Compensation

Over $1,110,249 to $1,682,194 – 3rd round pick

Over $1,682,194 to $3,364,391 – 2nd round pick

Over $3,364,391 to $5,046,585 – 1st round pick, 3rd

Over $5,046,585 to $6,728,781 – 1st round pick, 2nd, 3rd

Over $6,728,781 To $8,410,976 – Two 1st Round Picks, 2nd, 3rd

Over $8,410,976 – Four 1st Round Picks

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07-19-2012, 01:30 AM
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If this deal goes through, I know who's jersey I'll be buying next 8)

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So happy. Please don't match Preds.

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07-19-2012, 01:32 AM
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Sorry Lilja is Weber does come here, you might have to give up that #6.

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That is the compensation in such cases:

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...-offer-sheets/
I would probably wager a testicle that it's 4 first rounders. The max denominator in determining compensation is 5. We all know this contract will be extremely front-loaded. That will easily push the AAV for the purposes of compensation above the upper limit... the back end of the contract will only help in depressing the AAV relative to the cap, not this compensation.

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Well I'd rather have Weber in Nashville for his career then have him on the Pens.

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I really dont know what to think about this.
One thing is for sure. Holmgren does things his way. He doesnt give a **** what people think of him.
If Weber ends up here, probably fair to say the Flyers will trade Mez for a pick.

Weber-Coburn
Timonen-Grossman
Schenn-Lilja/Gervais/Gus
why?

I don't understand why everyone wants to trade mez. Yea, he hasn't been the best (to our standards) but isn't "bad".

but can you imagine:

Weber-Coburn
Timonen-Mez (good season or even like last)
Grossman - Shchenn

Bryz - good season

Cap issue or going for the cup balls to the wall?

disclaimer: quite a few beers deep

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Couple points:

1- If there is a huge signing bonus this year (and next) and the Pred's owner fears a lockout is likely, he may be scared off.
2- This prevents the Pens and other rivals with cap space from acquiring him. So at the very least it is a win if the Preds match. I am sure there is a full NMC involved in the offer.

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I wonder if Nashville will match this. I'm sure their owner would be willing to shell out that kind of cash at just 7.1 cap hit a year. But do they really want to invest that kind of money on a player who obviously wants out of Nashville? And if they do match it, Weber could just hold out and they might not even get the value of 4 1st round picks.

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Weber - Timonen
Coburn - Grossmann
Meszaros - Schenn

Gervais
Lilja
Bourdon
Manning
Gustafsson


Some nice depth I'd say.

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Flyers certainly keep offseasons interesting. Holmgren is a ballsy GM, and I really respect that.

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Maybe this is Weber's way of forcing Nashville to sign him before the new CBA kicks in?

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Maybe this is Weber's way of forcing Nashville to sign him before the new CBA kicks in?
That is a good point. Maybe weber panicked a bit and wanted to ensure a parise/suter like deal for himself and philly made it a reality.



If this goes down we are the cup favorites....say it with me. CUP FAVORITES

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07-19-2012, 01:42 AM
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as I posted on the main board, IF it were 100% up to Poile... then he will be matching the contract tomorrow morning at the latest.

Me thinks Nashville ownership is not gonna be so eager to give the thumbs up to this once they see the particulars of the contract (more specifically, the more than likely huge amount to be paid to Weber over the next few years). 7.1 cap hit is not the problem, the money owed for the next few years is what will make ownership make a really tough call.

I hope Homer put together this contract more/less by including a proverbial poison pill by making the salary so high that Nashville won't match. I hope it is 12,000,000+ salary wise for the next how ever many years because that number will scare Nashville's ownership to death. This is Nashville we are talking about here. They don't have dump trucks of money like some of us fortunate organizations do.

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Couple points:

1- If there is a huge signing bonus this year (and next) and the Pred's owner fears a lockout is likely, he may be scared off.
2- This prevents the Pens and other rivals with cap space from acquiring him. So at the very least it is a win if the Preds match. I am sure there is a full NMC involved in the offer.
Point #1 is absolutely critical, imo. Nashville could be taking a huge risk with their own finances by matching. With a lockout looming, it's very much possible that they wont give up all that money up front with all the revenue that would be lost to a lockout.

I think Holmgren realized that it was now or never. The fear of a lockout could be huge leverage here.

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07-19-2012, 01:44 AM
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If we actually get him


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I posted this on the main board... don't Nashville and us have a good business relationship?

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Weber - Timonen
Coburn - Grossmann
Meszaros - Schenn

Gervais
Lilja
Bourdon
Manning
Gustafsson


Some nice depth I'd say.
Even better.

Pronger-Weber
Timonen-Meszaros
Coburn-Schenn
Lilja

That's a 99 defense in NHL 13.

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From an earlier question...

Per the CBA, if Nashville signs Weber at this juncture, he cannot be traded for a period of a year.

Page(s) 35/36 of the document.

http://www.nhlpa.com/docs/about-us/n...a_2005_cba.pdf

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I posted this on the main board... don't Nashville and us have a good business relationship?
After this, maybe not. Who knows.

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I posted this on the main board... don't Nashville and us have a good business relationship?
Well, not anymore you don't.

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Humble request: can you guys make a plaster cast of Holmgren's genitalia and send it to Vancouver so our gm knows what balls look like? Thanks.

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Im not here to troll....

You guys better lock up Giroux soon because another team will make an ridiculous offer sheet to Claude! Giroux as become one of the most underpaid player in the NHL.. what a bargain for you guys at 3,75.

Claude was back home for the Canada Day weekend.. had the pleasure of talking a bit with him.. Take good care of this gem of a hockey player.. Plus Claude is an amazing kid.. He gave back 10,000$ to his local foundation here in Hearst. (his home town).

I can't see the Preds not matching this offer...

and this means the Preds can't trade him to the flyers.. I'm i right aobut this?

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