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07-19-2012, 12:40 AM
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John Carlson

If nashville matches the Weber offersheet,How hard will Philly persue Carlson who is also a RFA and a jersey boy?

Just a thought I had. He would come cheaper even tho the caps have the space to match a decent offer.

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I think Mike Gillis was interested in him. He was willing to trade Hodgson.

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Where will Philly get the picks from. Im sure that they can only use their own picks in an offersheet. Carlson offersheet will be more than a 1st

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Hopefully Washington will have locked up Carlson by the time the Weber situation is resolved.

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Where will Philly get the picks from. Im sure that they can only use their own picks in an offersheet. Carlson offersheet will be more than a 1st
He said if Nashville matches.

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Oh retard comment on my part, ignore it

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If the Flyers try the same thing with Carlson they will just make sure he stays in Washington for a very long time.

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If the Flyers try the same thing with Carlson they will just make sure he stays in Washington for a very long time.
Yea but the caps dont have 30 million in space like the preds.

Gms were saying Carlson has big time norris potential. It just wouldnt surprise me to see that as a plan B.

This may also be why Semin has yet to sign. Caps may need this space to match an offersheet from another team.

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I wouldn't mind if Montreal offer sheeted him. It would complete our D nicely.

Maybe we should resolve our Subban situation first because you know what they say about people living in glass houses.

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Washington would match anything that wouldn't give them cap problems, I'm betting. Alzner-Carlson was a heck of a pairing last year. I think it will be one of the better pairings in the league in a year or two.

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07-19-2012, 01:25 AM
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Yea but the caps dont have 30 million in space like the preds.

Gms were saying Carlson has big time norris potential. It just wouldnt surprise me to see that as a plan B.

This may also be why Semin has yet to sign. Caps may need this space to match an offersheet from another team.
What exactly do you think they are going to offer Carlson? The GDP of Canada? It's going to take a lot more than what they even offered Weber for the Caps to not be able to match it.

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Leonsis would match in about a minute flat. The one thing the team has is ample cap space.

There is zero chance the team doesn't match, and an excellent chance they'd file it away and offer sheet a player on the team in question within the next couple of years as payback. Both teams end up with overpaid players.

You only try an offer sheet if you really believe the other team won't match, because there is always the reciprocity problem: You try to screw them, they'll try to screw you. Everyone ends up screwed and no one switches teams. Well, the players make out like bandits.

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Things like this rarely happen. Doubt 2 in the same year would. And even if it did, the Caps match.

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What if they give him Mike Green type dollars but for longer? If philly fails to land Weber they may panic and make a crazy offer.

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What exactly do you think they are going to offer Carlson? The GDP of Canada? It's going to take a lot more than what they even offered Weber for the Caps to not be able to match it.
Are you insane?

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Things like this rarely happen. Doubt 2 in the same year would. And even if it did, the Caps match.
Unlikely, but certainly possible. Edmonton made an offer on Vanek, and then on Penner.

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What exactly do you think they are going to offer Carlson? The GDP of Canada? It's going to take a lot more than what they even offered Weber for the Caps to not be able to match it.
That's ridiculous. You think Washington would match a contract that offered Carlson -more- than Weber? You're either vastly overestimating Carlson's worth, or severely underestimating just how much cash Weber is going to be making.

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That's ridiculous. You think Washington would match a contract that offered Carlson -more- than Weber? You're either vastly overestimating Carlson's worth, or severely underestimating just how much cash Weber is going to be making.
Hes important to the caps but im wondering if they would pay him more than Green? Another desperate team who failed to get the big fish may throw a high salary deal with tons of term. GmGm doesnt like to gamble and may take the picks.

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That's ridiculous. You think Washington would match a contract that offered Carlson -more- than Weber? You're either vastly overestimating Carlson's worth, or severely underestimating just how much cash Weber is going to be making.
Able and will are two different things. What makes you think the Flyers will even offer a contract that ridiculous to begin with?

Offer sheets aren't exactly a big threat for teams with cap space and aren't cash-strapped. GMGM isn't exactly afraid of overpaying his own draft picks in both money and term.

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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that players comming off an entry level contract can't be signed to an offer sheet.

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Able and will are two different things. What makes you think the Flyers will even offer a contract that ridiculous to begin with?
Answer to your question bolded.

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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that players comming off an entry level contract can't be signed to an offer sheet.
You're wrong.

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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that players comming off an entry level contract can't be signed to an offer sheet.
That's only in very specific cases (I don't know what the specific criteria are, but as far as I know Jack Johnson is the only recent RFA to be put in that position of being an RFA without the right to sign anything).

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well...i guess this is david poile's thanks for all the help the preditors provided the flyers over the past few years. poile is a far brighter and more cunning player than holmgren and i'd bet homer rues the day he stuck a knife in poile's back.

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WSH should be looking at this and getting things done quite quick. Even MTL.

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Why would Philadelphia pursue Carlson when they already have Weber? They need to spend their money elsewhere.

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