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Weber signed to offer sheet (TSN: 14 yrs, 110m, cap hit $7.8m per yr.)

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07-19-2012, 08:22 AM
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It must be exciting to be a Flyers fan, it seems you guys are in on every top superstar.
I honestly think they do it intentionally. Every summer, Flyers are all over the news. Making huge trades, signing/making offers on huge free agents. They make it interesting all year long. Love it

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07-19-2012, 08:23 AM
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Poile has said the Preds will match any offer sheet for Shea. We shall see.

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It must be exciting to be a Flyers fan, it seems you guys are in on every top superstar.
Champions of the offseason!

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Poile has said the Preds will match any offer sheet for Shea. We shall see.
I think Homer called his bluff (here is to hoping)

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I always thought they had to match the exact offer sheet that was signed.

I wonder if Nashville's fax machine is smudge free?!
Yea this is what I believe is the case too. EJ Hradek tweeted about this last night and said they had to match the same contract, they can't reconstruct it.

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Don't think this will matter. Nashville will match because they simply can't afford not to. I don't think the money comes into play as much as people think, they were willing to keep Suter as similar numbers.

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07-19-2012, 08:29 AM
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This is gonna gnaw at me like the Parise suter thing lol

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This is a crazy lineup. I am not an expert on LTIR, but if they LTIR Pronger could they get another forward? Cap space is just shy of $1 million without putting Pronger on LTIR.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
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FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Matt Read ($0.900m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.750m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Tom Sestito ($0.605m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m)
DEFENSEMEN
Shea Weber ($7.100m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Luke Schenn ($3.600m) / Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Bruno Gervais ($0.825m)
Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
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CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $951,627

I took Mez off the team because I am 90% sure he will be traded if they don't match.

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07-19-2012, 08:33 AM
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Kypreos saying offer sheet is 110m+

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07-19-2012, 08:33 AM
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Don't think this will matter. Nashville will match because they simply can't afford not to. I don't think the money comes into play as much as people think, they were willing to keep Suter as similar numbers.
Was Nashville's official numbers ever released about how much they offered Suter? People are saying this but I never seen any confirmed report they put an offer out there like other teams were (i.e 90-100 million) It could have been them trying to save face with the whole ordeal. I could be wrong though, but you really don't hear anything about their "substantial" offer to Suter. Only the other teams that were involved.

This just seems fishing.

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07-19-2012, 08:33 AM
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From Kypreos:


I love interruption of CBA talks for #Flyers ballpark offer of 110M to #Preds Weber. His AAV offer lower than 8M but higher than Suter 7.5M
8:28am - 19 Jul 12

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07-19-2012, 08:34 AM
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Yea this is what I believe is the case too. EJ Hradek tweeted about this last night and said they had to match the same contract, they can't reconstruct it.
Except for the NTC or NMC

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07-19-2012, 08:34 AM
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Was Nashville's official numbers ever released about how much they offered Suter? People are saying this but I never seen any confirmed report they put an offer out there like other teams were (i.e 90-100 million) It could have been them trying to save face with the whole ordeal. I could be wrong though, but you really don't hear anything about their "substantial" offer to Suter. Only the other teams that were involved.

This just seems fishing.
12 years and 90 million was a roundabout that was floating around

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07-19-2012, 08:36 AM
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This is a crazy lineup. I am not an expert on LTIR, but if they LTIR Pronger could they get another forward? Cap space is just shy of $1 million without putting Pronger on LTIR.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Matt Read ($0.900m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.750m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Tom Sestito ($0.605m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m)
DEFENSEMEN
Shea Weber ($7.100m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Luke Schenn ($3.600m) / Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Bruno Gervais ($0.825m)
Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Michael Leighton ($0.900m)
BUYOUTS
Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
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(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,248,373; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $951,627

I took Mez off the team because I am 90% sure he will be traded if they don't match.

I am thinking Weber is @ 8.5 mil - and I posted a roster in the roster thread which leaves all the D - minus Pronger(10% going over) and space of 2mil +

Have a look - I also didn't sign Vora for over 4... but the space is there for that too on my roster.

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Don't think this will matter. Nashville will match because they simply can't afford not to. I don't think the money comes into play as much as people think, they were willing to keep Suter as similar numbers.
After thinking about this more, I am also beginning to think that we get Weber, but at a cost other than 4 1sts a la what Melzer suggested this morning.

The reality is that the Preds were already shopping Weber per Dreger, so obviously the notion of losing him is something they've considered. Clearly the 4 1sts isn't nearly enough, but would voracek, mez, cousins and 2 1sts be enough to soften the blow.

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I am thinking Weber is @ 8.5 mil - and I posted a roster in the roster thread which leaves all the D - minus Pronger(10% going over) and space of 2mil +

Have a look - I also didn't sign Vora for over 4... but the space is there for that too on my roster.
Kypreos said it could be less than 8m per

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Could you imagine if Weber goes to Philly and Pronger comes back healthy?

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Could you imagine if Weber goes to Philly and Pronger comes back healthy?

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Could you imagine if Weber goes to Philly and Pronger comes back healthy?

I think the first part of your statement pretty much confirms that the second part isn't happening.

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Was Nashville's official numbers ever released about how much they offered Suter? People are saying this but I never seen any confirmed report they put an offer out there like other teams were (i.e 90-100 million) It could have been them trying to save face with the whole ordeal. I could be wrong though, but you really don't hear anything about their "substantial" offer to Suter. Only the other teams that were involved.

This just seems fishing.
They have the stance that they never got the chance to match what the Wild gave Suter.

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Kypreos said it could be less than 8m per
Well then that is even better news

But I shot 'high' just in case... b/c when it comes to figures no one EVER knows it seems....

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Wow congrats Philly, love the fact you guys have the balls to do this. So any trade bait if Nashville doesn't match?

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Wow congrats Philly, love the fact you guys have the balls to do this. So any trade bait if Nashville doesn't match?
I see us trading players to them isntead of draft picks

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Wow congrats Philly, love the fact you guys have the balls to do this. So any trade bait if Nashville doesn't match?
I could definitely see Mezsaros available for futures or a solid 4th line/PKer if we acquired Weber for just the 4 1sts.

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Bill Meltzer was speculating that the Flyers could turn around and trade back for some or all of the draft picks a la Chris Gratton. Meszaros/Voracek/Gustafsson for 2 1sts might be something they're interested in.

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