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[PHI] Shea Weber Signs Offer Sheet - 14 Yrs - $110 Million - $7.857 Cap Hit (Pt III)

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07-19-2012, 09:58 AM
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Doing something incredibly risky isn't necessarily bravery, it also could be recklessness.



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Funny you say that but are completely ignorant to the fact that Richards was unhappy in Philly. He clashed with Pronger and Lavy.

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I think the Flyers hate on here is even more entertaining than the offer sheet. Or is it jealousy?

Oh, but Carter and Richards won the cup, so that must mean the Flyers didn't win their trades, right?

LMAO.
We were called cancer in the last thread.. Follow the CBA and get called names.

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Of course it takes balls. He's handing over 4 1st round picks for a player for an enormous sum, and possibly breaking a wonderful relationship with the Predators (not saying it will, but Poille can't be thrilled).

Takes balls in my eyes. I can say without much doubt Homer probably makes the big move more than any other current GM (which isn't always a good thing, but it's true).
Exactly, Philly isn't the only team with money, yet Holmgren is the only GM that got him to sign an offer sheet.

Plus you have to consider previous moves, the guy is not affraid to take risks.

He's playing the NHL the exact same way I play NHL 12 for XBOX.

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I just woke up.

WHAT THE **** HAPPENED.
Nothing much. Cap circumventing offer sheet for a star player on a poor team.

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14 years 110m
Thanks.

That's actually a pretty good deal.

Weber is the best defenseman in the league and he's only making a little bit more than Suter.

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It's actually irrelevant because you wouldn't have a picture with them holding a Cup in Flyers jerseys unless Quick, Kopitar, and Doughty were sent to Philly.
It's relevant because they were apparently trouble makers and the Flyers couldn't win with them, so the Flyers traded them for picks and young players. Holmgren's "big balls" didn't win him anything. It's not about making big moves, it's about making smart moves.

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Poile can now lock Weber for eternity without giving him NTC/NMC. He wins imo.
I agree. Tough moment to pay the signing bonus this year but if they manage to do this it'll be a pretty fine contract for them imo.

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I just woke up.

WHAT THE **** HAPPENED.
The Flyers punched Poile in the face and took his lunch money.

Looking at the contract offer. If that contract is not CLEAR circumvention of the salary cap I have no idea what is.

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Doing something incredibly risky isn't necessarily bravery, it also could be recklessness.



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Where's Gagne in that picture?

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Nash has to Match....Hes the best Dman in the league,Captain, and he could be there for life as the franchises greatest player.....

See what Suter got and dont be cheap NASH......

Plus if Shea Weber comes to the Atlantic, might as well give my isels the death penalty....

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Nothing much. Cap circumventing offer sheet for a star player on a poor team.
Explain how it's cap circumventing?

it's legal under the CBA

Deal with it

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take the 4 1s round pick

with brizgalof in the net you might have 2 top 5 overall pick

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It's relevant because they were apparently trouble makers and the Flyers couldn't win with them, so the Flyers traded them for picks and young players. Holmgren's "big balls" didn't win him anything. It's not about making big moves, it's about making smart moves.
Those words never came out of the organization's mouth. It's amazing people are still making this stuff up.

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fantastic move by Homer

he either gets him signed, or NSH matches and he stays in the west for the rest of his career (unless traded in the future)

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Doing something incredibly risky isn't necessarily bravery, it also could be recklessness.



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It is relevant. Acquiring good players makes you win Cup. Don't the problem.

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It's relevant because they were apparently trouble makers and the Flyers couldn't win with them, so the Flyers traded them for picks and young players. Holmgren's "big balls" didn't win him anything. It's not about making big moves, it's about making smart moves.
They won with the Kings, not the Flyers.



Your tears are so yummy. Keep the *****ing coming!

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Poile can now lock Weber for eternity without giving him NTC/NMC. He wins imo.
Right, if he matches. Interesting chess match if that was Poile's master plan. Seems too risky - going to arb, waiting/hoping for a player to sign an offer sheet to match.

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I forgot Philadelphia is the only team that has money in the NHL. Gotcha.
Come on, you seriously think that Holmgren isn't going to have a harder time signing free agents after the Carter/Richards debacle? He's going to have to start throwing in NTC's on every contract. 5/8 of their defensemen on 1-way contracts already have some form of a NTC, and 2 of their recent UFA signings (Fedotenko and Bryzgalov) got one as well.

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Holmgren probably doesnt even realize hed lose 4 first rounders. That's how clueless he is about the CBA

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Wow, how dumb are these owners? Obviously you want to win first and foremost and I respect that. But to give out so much money to a player when you are telling the NHLPA the players make too much...

One step closer to a lockout I am thinking.

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I know it's terribly front-loaded, but I don't see how this isn't a blessing for Nashville. Weber may not have resigned as a UFA, but if they match he has to resign now, right? That means they basically side-step the negotiations with Weber and get to keep him (at a high cost, of course), or just move him after matching.

Is that right or do I not understand the way the CBA works?

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Someone explain to me how this is cap circumvention?
It is designed to have a lower cap hit can actual money per years played. This isn't rocket science.

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Come on, you seriously think that Holmgren isn't going to have a harder time signing free agents after the Carter/Richards debacle? He's going to have to start throwing in NTC's on every contract. 5/8 of their defensemen on 1-way contracts already have some form of a NTC, and 2 of their recent UFA signings (Fedotenko and Bryzgalov) got one as well.
Yep, sure looks like we are having problems with that.

Coburn, Grossmann, Weber.

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If I'm Poile, I'm considering GM openings when my contract is up.
between a hard place and a rock



if your team lost their best dman for nothing and then weber (another franchise dman) decides not to resign with your team.


he has manged to keep that team in Nash and prosper on a shoestring budget...build a great team ......unfortunaly see that team crumble down....gotta be tough for fans.


and the players loved it there........




do think Nash has to match that offer....has the cash to match but no flexibilty to grow in a small market (might be too rich for them)

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Holmgren probably doesnt even realize hed lose 4 first rounders. That's how clueless he is about the CBA
Shea Weber on a lifetime contract is worth four of Philly's 1st rounders, which will be anywhere from 20-30 in the first round for the next four years.

Worth it.

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