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Weber signed to offer sheet (TSN: 14 yrs, 110m, cap hit $7.8m per yr.)

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07-19-2012, 12:01 PM
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mfw a toronto fan calls a package of Voracek, Meszaros, Gustafsson, akeson/cousins,2nd, and 2 1sts for Weber 'mediocre'

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Does anyone think the Jeremy Lin deal in the NBA had anything to do with this. I mean Houston got Lin on an offer sheet with a poison pill in the third year specifically to make it tough (if you believe the owners, impossible) for NY to match. His deal was 5m, 5m, 14.8m, specifically to targeting the third year to hit NY with the most luxury tax humanly possible if they matched. NY wanted nothing to do with that.

Here we have Philly doing...well pretty much exactly the same thing except putting the poison pill up front targeting NSH's lack of funds.

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I am not really sure how RFAs work, is Shea/his agent allowed to speak with other teams?
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I am not really sure how RFAs work, is Shea/his agent allowed to speak with other teams?
No. He has essentially signed as a free agent to play with the flyers. The only difference is Nashville have the right to match and keep him.

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correct, they owe him 26-27 by july 1st of 2013. within a year they have to pay him.


this is a very interesting chess move.
Plus, it's 2 lump sums of 13m each.. Much different than paying the 26m over the season

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mfw a toronto fan calls a package of Voracek, Meszaros, Gustafsson, akeson/cousins,2nd, and 2 1sts for Weber 'mediocre'
Leafs fans still think Jiri Tlusty will be the face of their franchise in the next few years

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Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull
I'd say the odds are 50/50 that #Flyers get Weber. That's about 45% higher than I thought last week.#Preds

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Bottom line: A trade between #Flyers and #Preds could be in works. But, again, #Preds will feel the heat if they don't retain Weber.

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Leafs fans still think Jiri Tlusty will be the face of their franchise in the next few years
Jiri Tlusty was traded to Carolina 3 years ago...

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Brilliant move. Either the Flyers get Weber and while it cost 4 first round picks, they are competing to sign him next summer. Or Nashville matches, but even if they trade him it means that no one else is getting Weber with out giving up plenty.

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No. He has essentially signed as a free agent to play with the flyers. The only difference is Nashville have the right to match and keep him.
once July 1st rolls around, Weber could have talked to any team he wanted. NSH just has the opportinity to match any offer-sheet that Weber signed

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Jiri Tlusty was traded to Carolina 2 years ago...
THat's how distraught you guys are.

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Jiri Tlusty was traded to Carolina 2 years ago...
my point exactly

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Everything okay with Pronger? Will he be back this season?

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It's 14m in the first season. 26 is the bonus over the first two.

Like I've said: THIS WILL NOT FORCE NASHVILLE TO ACTUALLY SPEND MORE MONEY THAN IT USUALLY DOES ON PLAYERS.

There is no money issue. Particularly when you factor in they were expecting to spend the 14m between Weber and Suter anyway.



I've read it. Predators will struggle to make money next year regardless. That does not change the fact that this deal will not significantly change the financial well being of the team.

Now it could be that the owners have decided they don't like the risk involved with putting that much money into one guy, but in terms of personnel costs this deal won't put the Preds significantly behind where they'd normally be.
You've been misinformed, or youve interpreted wrong. He's owed 26 million between now and next July.

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my point exactly
Im sure

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Holmgren is an idiot.

14 million for the 1st 4 years? That is extravagant. The problem with these types of contracts is hat they engender more of them. Then you start to get players who, after they get their money for the 1st 4 years, they see more money being given to other players and decide their remaining years are not paying them enough, so they hold out for new contracts or demand to be traded. This is the crap we are seeing in the NFL and it will hit the NHL soon. These idiot front loaded contracts where players get severely bloated amounts hurts the entire league and drives up player salaries to brutal degrees. What happens next? Bettman and the Player's Union fight about costs and this becomes a focal point that can lead to another lost year of hockey.

I hate these types of deals, and hope that Bettman finds a way to get a provision in the upcoming CBA that does not allow for such stupid contracts. Keep in mind, I say this as a Habs fan whose team has the money to do this type of stupidity but has chosen not to, so far.


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Everything okay with Pronger? Will he be back this season?
Pretty sure this is Homers way of saying Pronger is done.

Sucks.

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his career is over

thats the whole reason why this move was made

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...no, he's done.

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Holmgren is an idiot.

14 million for the 1st 4 years? That is extravagant. The problem with these types of contracts is hat they engender more of them. Then you start to get players who, after they get their money for the 1st 4 years, they see more money being given to other players and decide their remaining years are not paying them enough, so they hold out for new contracts or demand to be traded. This is the crap we are seeing in the NFL and it will hit the NHL soon. These idiot front loaded contracts where players get severely bloated amounts hurts the entire league and drives up player salaries to brutal degrees. What happens next? Bettman and the Player's Union fight about costs and this becomes a focal point that can lead to another lost year of hockey.

I hate these types of deals, and hope that Bettman finds a way to get a provision in the upcoming CBA that does not allow for such stupid contracts. Keep in mind, I say this as a Habs fan whose team has the money to do this type of stupidity but has chosen not to, so far.
u mad?

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No and no.

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once July 1st rolls around, Weber could have talked to any team he wanted. NSH just has the opportinity to match any offer-sheet that Weber signed
That's exactly what I just said. Weber can only sign with one team. It's not like he can sign 3 offer-sheets.

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Here's the part owner's Twitter I referred to, everything I'm seeing from the organization doesn't seem to confident:

https://twitter.com/WBrettWilson/

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1) He is owed a Lump sum 13 Million due upon the date in which the Preds either MATCH or PASS
2) He is owed 1 Million in typical payments over the course of the season (If there is a season)
3) He is owed a Lump sum 13 Million on July 1, 2013
4) All BONUS payments are paid in Lump on July 1 of that calender year.
5) All SALARY payments are paid throughout the season as normal.

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Macnow just said on wip that we also just made an offer to Shane doan. Wtf is going on

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