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Mikael Granlund - how do you think he'll do?

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07-20-2012, 04:43 AM
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07-20-2012, 05:04 AM
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If Granlund plays on the same level he played from September2011 to December2011, I´d expect 60-70 points from him. But it is more likely that he will have some problems with the NA rink and the physicality. Also his second half in 2012 was pretty underwhelming.

I´d say that in the first half he will put up 20 points in 41 games, the second half he will do better, 30-35 points in 41 games.

15+40 seems pretty likely.

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I'm extremely sceptical regarding Mike Granlund.

Simply put, he's too small for the NHL. The NHL is slowly becoming a big mans game again and Granlund isn't Marty St.Louis.

As we saw at the IIHF WC's this spring when he faced team Canada he was intimidated and his game was was completely shut down by the bigger Canadians. Having to face this on a regular basis in the NHL I personally can't see him making any significant impact. There are also some question marks about his durability.

I think he's been hyped up too much and won't live up to his lofty expectations. Don't get me wrong, he is an incredible passer/playmaker and will definately find his niche.

My prediction for his rookie season: 7g 21a = 28p

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07-20-2012, 07:55 AM
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I'm hoping like heck he doesn't get "lit up".

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I'm extremely sceptical regarding Mike Granlund.

Simply put, he's too small for the NHL. The NHL is slowly becoming a big mans game again and Granlund isn't Marty St.Louis.

As we saw at the IIHF WC's this spring when he faced team Canada he was intimidated and his game was was completely shut down by the bigger Canadians. Having to face this on a regular basis in the NHL I personally can't see him making any significant impact. There are also some question marks about his durability.

I think he's been hyped up too much and won't live up to his lofty expectations. Don't get me wrong, he is an incredible passer/playmaker and will definately find his niche.

My prediction for his rookie season: 7g 21a = 28p
There are smaller players in NHL. And same sized. And succeeding. And not many of those own as good hockey IQ as MG and that drive to win.

He was totally gassed at the end of last year, though he didn't admit it. I hope he was wrong, for his future's sake.

But I understand your point and somewhat a agree.

I think he's durability is fine, though he hasn't been realistically tested yet (the rumba he's went on the last year.)

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07-20-2012, 08:45 AM
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It's the first season when others are allowed to check him and the way his playing he's concussed soon. Retired/bak in FEL in few years.

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07-20-2012, 09:56 AM
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It's the first season when others are allowed to check him and the way his playing he's concussed soon. Retired/bak in FEL in few years.
Didn't realize the Finnish league was no contact. Thanks for clearing that up.

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07-20-2012, 10:38 AM
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It's the first season when others are allowed to check him and the way his playing he's concussed soon. Retired/bak in FEL in few years.
I also heard that in the FEL goalies weren't allowed to block his shots

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It's the first season when others are allowed to check him and the way his playing he's concussed soon. Retired/bak in FEL in few years.
Didnt see him get any special treatment. But i got to admit, im a little scared when next year someone like Andy Sutton is in his division doing this instead of Väänänen oh boy...

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07-20-2012, 10:59 AM
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I'm extremely sceptical regarding Mike Granlund.

Simply put, he's too small for the NHL. The NHL is slowly becoming a big mans game again and Granlund isn't Marty St.Louis.

As we saw at the IIHF WC's this spring when he faced team Canada he was intimidated and his game was was completely shut down by the bigger Canadians. Having to face this on a regular basis in the NHL I personally can't see him making any significant impact. There are also some question marks about his durability.

I think he's been hyped up too much and won't live up to his lofty expectations. Don't get me wrong, he is an incredible passer/playmaker and will definately find his niche.

My prediction for his rookie season: 7g 21a = 28p
He was also in the IIHF WC's last year and had an excellent tournament. Plus Finland won gold in that tournament.

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07-20-2012, 11:11 AM
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50 to 60 as long as he doesn't get injured.

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He's one of the big beneficiaries of the signings they made (Mitchell and Konopka as well), because he's likely going to be the only "kid" in the lineup this year. Rather than starting on a line with, say, Charlie Coyle or Jason Zucker, he gets to start on a line with guys like Setoguchi, PMB (if healthy), and Matt Cullen. He also has a legit #1 line (Parise-Koivu-Heatley) and a legit #3 (Cullen-Brodziak-Clutterbuck) line sandwiching them, so teams can't completely focus on him like they can with some of the other youngs guns in the league. If he's healthy, then I think 20G 40A is probably the sweet spot for his rookie year, give or take a few either way.

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07-20-2012, 11:25 AM
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It's the first season when others are allowed to check him and the way his playing he's concussed soon. Retired/bak in FEL in few years.
He'll get plenty of protection in that lineup. Stoner, Kassian, and Konopka are all mid to heavy weights, and they have a few other guys that will fight from time to time. He'll get protected.

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07-20-2012, 12:38 PM
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Initially I was thinking 50 points, but now I'm starting to think 60+.

Career numbers:

SM-Liiga - 41+86 in 129gp
WC - 3+11 in 19gp
U20 - 5+16 in 19gp
U18 - 6+20 in 12gp

He's been fantastic to this point, and there's no reason to believe at 20 years old he won't be ready for the NHL.

Also, he'll likely be the 2nd line center, facing a little lighter competition.

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07-20-2012, 12:47 PM
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He reminds me a lot of Paul Stastny, although I think he has a higher offensive upside in his prime. The NHL is becoming a small man's game in general, and plenty of little guys have success. I mean, look at Giroux and Skinner and Enstrom on D. All have much better skating, but Granlund doesn't put himself in bad positions and his vision gives him great escapability. His hockey IQ will make him successful if he can avoid the big hits.

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07-20-2012, 01:34 PM
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50-60 points and a Calder nomination

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07-20-2012, 01:40 PM
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2,858 points in 77 gp.

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07-20-2012, 01:55 PM
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He'll probably be playing with two of Koivu, Parise, Heatley, Setoguchi, or PMB, so my prediction for him is:
20g-45a-65p
IMO that is the best case scenario.

I don't expect him to do no more than 15+30 if plays 75+ match.

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I don't think the goals will come very easy to begin with, but he'll put up assists.

12g+45a is my guess.

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07-20-2012, 02:17 PM
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disappointed < 30 points

somewhat underwhelmed 30 - 40

okay with expecting 40 - 50

happy with 50 - 60

very happy > 60

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07-20-2012, 02:25 PM
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Can't be better than Landeskog......... Or can he?

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Can't be better than Landeskog......... Or can he?
More points? Possibly.

But not as complete player as Landeskog was last year, imo. Faced one of the toughest competition in the league, while being excellent on corsi and +/- was excellent, especially on he's team and compared to he's linemates (yeah I know, misleading stat, but still).

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07-20-2012, 03:20 PM
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30-50 points. I'm expecting him to need a year or two to kick off, but after that, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go up to PPG territories.

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