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07-20-2012, 12:08 PM
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Winnik - Bonino - Cogliano would actually be a pretty interesting line - three good defensive players. They would have to lock Bonino in a room with Koivu for the next two months and teach him to take faceoffs though.

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07-20-2012, 12:10 PM
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Winnik is one of the best defensive forwards I've seen in the league. Quite good at PKing and board work. Can't do a thing with the puck on his stick, of course.

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Seems like everyone has written off McMillan, not that I disagree. Too bad. He looked great 2 years ago.

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07-20-2012, 12:46 PM
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Sharks fan here in peace. I think you guys lucked out because he's had a history of being difficult to negotiate with. He probably realized that his hardball tactics werent going to fly and teams had moved on. The speculation is that he wanted $2.5m/year in Colorado and likely asked for that with us. Doug Wilson is usually really quiet about his negotiations, so we were all caught off guard when he made it public that they had moved on from him at July 1st.

He's a solid 3rd liner. Loved him on the PK and his work along the boards. Has tenacity that was desperately needed in our bottom 6. Should be good for you guys.

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07-20-2012, 01:07 PM
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Plan the parade!

Good signing though. We needed a player like this in our bottom six.

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Seems like everyone has written off McMillan, not that I disagree. Too bad. He looked great 2 years ago.
I haven't completely written him off yet. It's a shame he regressed so much last season because after his '10/'11 campaign I was expecting him to be a mainstay on our third line for years to come. Maybe my expectations were unrealistic.

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07-20-2012, 01:39 PM
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How realistic would be to split Koivu and Teemu?

I`d like to se

Ryan-Getzlaf-Perry
Cogliano-Bonino-Selanne
Winnik-Koivu-Devo
Beleskey-Holland-Palmieri/Staubitz

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07-20-2012, 01:47 PM
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How realistic would be to split Koivu and Teemu?

I`d like to se

Ryan-Getzlaf-Perry
Cogliano-Bonino-Selanne
Winnik-Koivu-Devo
Beleskey-Holland-Palmieri/Staubitz
They could be split, but Palmieri would have a top 6 spot over cogs.

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07-20-2012, 01:56 PM
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How realistic would be to split Koivu and Teemu?
Try these out for a bit

Selanne - Getzlaf - Perry
Ryan - Bonino - Palmieri
Winnick - Koivu - DSP
Cogs - Holland - Beleskey

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07-20-2012, 01:59 PM
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They could be split, but Palmieri would have a top 6 spot over cogs.
Palmieri even can play LW?

I think he`s only a RW, and i rank Perry and Selanne higher than Kyle

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07-20-2012, 02:28 PM
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DSP/Etem/Maroon/whoever the hell earns that spot-Getzlaf-Perry
Ryan-Bonino-Palmieri
Cogs-Koivu-Selanne
Winnik-Holland/FA-Staubitz/Belesky

That's what I'd like to see.

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07-20-2012, 02:32 PM
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Laughing at all the line combinations. No one has any clue how are team could look next season. So many unknowns and unproven players.

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07-20-2012, 02:37 PM
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Beleskey played with Getz and Perry a bit last year.

Beleskey-Getz-Perry
Ryan-Bonino-Palmieri
Cogs-Koivu-Selanne
Winnick-???-DSP
Staubitz

Would not surprise me, Belesky has a bit of a scoring touch (41 goals and 90 points in his last season in juniors, then had 11 goals in 27 games for Syracuse). He had 11 goals for us his rookie year in 60 games, and plays a physical game to match those two.

Or

DSP-Getz-Perry
Ryan-Bonino-Palmieri
Cogs-Koivu-Selanne
Beleskey-Winnick-Staubitz

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07-20-2012, 02:39 PM
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DSP/Etem/Maroon/whoever the hell earns that spot-Getzlaf-Perry
Ryan-Bonino-Palmieri
Cogs-Koivu-Selanne
Winnik-Holland/FA-Staubitz/Belesky

That's what I'd like to see.
Does anyone else think it's possible that we see Etem in the show this year? I got to watch him quite a bit in the WHL last year and he looked on his own level (obviously, look at his goals). He is so so so fast and has the ability to just put the puck in the net. I could see him not being ready but I could also see them giving him a try, if it works out that could really change our lines a lot as having another top 6 winger makes a huge difference.

I like this signing a lot as it's basically what we needed on the bottom 6, the thing that annoys me is I wish Bob would recognize how bad we need good face-off men. Not only is Koivu a weak 2nd line C right now in my opinion, he's not getting any younger. If we found a good face-off guy for the 2nd line and could have Koivu slotted on the 3rd line I would like our forward a lot more, but to me this is a gaping hole that gets ignored every time we make a signing.

I would like to see something similar to what you posted, I just don't know if Bonino is ready for that role, if he is then great, but if there is someone we could sign that we know for sure can fill that role then that would be more ideal.

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07-20-2012, 02:43 PM
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If Ryan is traded, you can 100% expect a #2 center for the start of the season. If that's a good idea is another question, if he could somehow get a center and winger in a deal around Ryan that would be amazing, albeit unlikely at this point in time.

FA market is thin, there's a reason he wanted Schenn/Couterier in any deal with the Flyers.

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07-20-2012, 02:51 PM
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Ryan-Bonino-Palmieri
I just like the idea of a PBR line.

From the article posted on the Ducks official site Winnik is expecting to be on the 3rd line which is where I'd place him if I was in charge. I'm actually impressed by his TOI, hopefully under Boudreau he finds a few more goals in him.

The team this year may be stronger defensively than last year.

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Rob Neids part 2 with less offense

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07-20-2012, 03:13 PM
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I think he replaces Belesky in the lineup and plays 3rd to 4th line minutes depending if we have a lead or not.

I think you guys are silly for thinking Cogs gets moved anytime before the trade deadline.

I like the signing but I wish we could find someone who can win some faceoffs besides Koivu... that is most glaring hole w/ this team now.

Camp will be interesting, I doubt Boudreau has any solid idea of what the lines will look like right now.

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07-20-2012, 03:23 PM
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Line 1: DSP - Getzlaf - Perry
Line 2A: Cogliano - Koivu - Selanne
Line 2B: Ryan - Holland - Palmieri
Line 4: Beleskey - Bonino - Winnik
X: Staubitz

I'd love to see Cogliano moved, but these seem like the most realistic line combos, if there is no more action this off-season.

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07-20-2012, 03:47 PM
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Great signing.
I would have loved if we had signed a guy like Konopka or Pahlsson 2.0 type player and recreate a shutdown line with Winnik and DSP.

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07-20-2012, 04:01 PM
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Nice I approve 100% big physical gritty player, our bottom 6 is looking alot better if he and DSP are there
Im not writing off MacMillan, but if he wants to make it, he's gotta make it as a center who can win faceoffs. if he can do that he'll make the team


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07-20-2012, 04:04 PM
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Good signing!

Allen and Winnik are huge upgrades to our PK

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I'm throwing out a wild suggestion here. Based on the fact that Winnik and Cogs are close friends, perhaps they could have some good chemistry on a defensive 3rd line. Guess they will be our main PKs as well.

Ryan-Getzlaf-Perry
Palmieri-Koivu-Selanne
Winnik-Cogliano-McMillan
DSP-Bonino-Beleskey

or:

Ryan-Getzlaf-Perry
Palmieri-Koivu-Selanne
Winnik-Cogliano-DSP
Beleskey-Bonino-Staubitz


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07-20-2012, 04:21 PM
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Well we do have pieces to make a shutdown line with Cogs/Winnik/Koivu/DSP.

That doesn't really fit with our 4 scoring lines MO though.

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Well we do have pieces to make a shutdown line with Cogs/Winnik/Koivu/DSP.

That doesn't really fit with our 4 scoring lines MO though.
That's where McMillan comes into the picture. he's the most logical player we have to center a shutdown line.

Winnik/McMillan/DSP makes some sense to me, atleast.

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