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Oilers re-sign Sam Gagner (1 year) 3.2M

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07-20-2012, 10:52 PM
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hrm... not bad but I agree that Oilers probably should have gone for term, maybe at $3.5-$3.75 mil. If all the offense keeps up and he hits 70 point range he could fetch $4.5-$5.5 mil.

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07-20-2012, 10:58 PM
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hrm... not bad but I agree that Oilers probably should have gone for term, maybe at $3.5-$3.75 mil. If all the offense keeps up and he hits 70 point range he could fetch $4.5-$5.5 mil.
But, if he stagnates, then they would be stuck long term with a contract that would probably be very hard to move.

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07-20-2012, 11:09 PM
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So he got 8 points in one game, exactly how many players have done that in the last 20 years? Here's a hint, it's a natural number less than 2. Why should that 8 point night be a negative?
It's a negative because it shows what he is capable of but he really tailed off after that.

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It's a negative because it shows what he is capable of but he really tailed off after that.
Which still isn't nearly as significant as the mere fact that he has the talent to do it. For what its worth, most of his struggles were actually before that. And I would expect his numbers to drop once RNH came back from injury, so its not nearly the negative you (and HF in general) seem to think it is.

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07-20-2012, 11:34 PM
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Only useful when he's scoring, which he's not doing much of.

That being said, a decent deal for both sides. It's not like the Oilers are in cap hell.

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If people have an issue with this deal they are crazy. Tambo made a brilliant move. They sign him for one year, so he has a year to prove himself. But if they had signed him for 2 years he would have been eligible for UFA status. This way, we get a bargain second line center with tons of upside while maintaining his rights if they choose to sign him long term. Great for both sides.

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07-21-2012, 03:56 AM
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Fair deal all around. Verry niiice.

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07-21-2012, 04:17 AM
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Sam Gagner seems to be one of those players that can be successful with strong offensive players but has trouble creating space and offensive chances on his own.
I'm sure part of that is due to his skillset, this is a player who's best skill is an ability to use the assets around him. Guys like Penner, Brule, Cogliano, Nilsson have all seen the most success they have had in the NHL on a line with him. I don't think Gagner is the type of player who stands out for what he does, but makes his teammates stand out for what they do. As a center he supports the play offensively very well and gets the puck to where his teammates need it.

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07-21-2012, 08:35 AM
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Always liked Gagner, fair deal. I can see him getting 60 points this year

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It's a negative because it shows what he is capable of but he really tailed off after that.
Gagner scored at about a 25 goal pace for the remaining 30ish games after that night. He didn't tail off at all.

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It's a negative because it shows what he is capable of but he really tailed off after that.
Not being able to sustain an 8 ppg pace means he tailed off?

You do realize he was near ppg for the remainder of the year after that game right? If it weren't for his awful start (where he saw a lot of 4th line time), he would be sitting around 0.8 ppg.

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Not being able to sustain an 8 ppg pace means he tailed off?

You do realize he was near ppg for the remainder of the year after that game right? If it weren't for his awful start (where he saw a lot of 4th line time), he would be sitting around 0.8 ppg.
IIRC, pretty sure he was barely over half a point a game after the 8 point night, but nowhere near a ppg after that point.

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I think its a bit high but let's see how he produces this year.

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He got injured in the preseason and when he was able to return he came into a situation where the top 2 lines were playing really well so he was 3rd/4th line. That in combination with him having to try to get up to speed post-injury caused him to put up a measly 2 points in his first 13 games. From that point on he started to get in a groove and put up 45 points in the last 62 games, which is approximately a 60 point pace.

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Good contract. If he succeeds, hes still a RFA after this and if he fails, the contract is short term.

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Killer deal IMO.

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Wish it were longer term, happy he's still an Oiler

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Right....because he only played one game last season.
A) The Oilers aren't strapped for cash or cap space B) He'll still be a RFA so even if he does have 82 "lucky nights" I'm pretty sure he'll fetch a pretty significant return.
The humidity in Ontario must be affecting all Leaf and Sens fans lately. Its bad when I wish there were more Flames and Canuck fans posting in an Oilers related thread
Did you not see the smilie face or did you just choose to ignore it?

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Always liked Gagner, fair deal. I can see him getting 60 points this year
sure if your assuming he will play with Nail or someone like jordan eberle, rnh takes 1 st line all season

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I wonder what he would have received if he had not had that 8 point game to boost his final point total.

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I'm sure part of that is due to his skillset, this is a player who's best skill is an ability to use the assets around him. Guys like Penner, Brule, Cogliano, Nilsson have all seen the most success they have had in the NHL on a line with him. I don't think Gagner is the type of player who stands out for what he does, but makes his teammates stand out for what they do. As a center he supports the play offensively very well and gets the puck to where his teammates need it.
None of Brule, Cogliano or Nilsson have had any degree of success worth noting.

Penner had his greatest success in Anaheim.

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07-23-2012, 08:39 AM
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None of Brule, Cogliano or Nilsson have had any degree of success worth noting.

Penner had his greatest success in Anaheim.
Don't be obtuse. You know he means they played their best when with Gagner.

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I wonder what he would have received if he had not had that 8 point game to boost his final point total.
So you think because he had one 8 point game everybody said, "We better give this guy a couple hundred grand extra."?

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Good contract. If he succeeds, hes still a RFA after this and if he fails, the contract is short term.
Exactly this

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