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07-20-2012, 05:55 PM
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Shea Weber and Al MacInnis similarities

Webers game is very similar to Big Als in his prime. Hes big, hits like a tank, great in his own end, is a leader, moves the puck well and has a booming shot.

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I think Weber is better in his own end than Al, but Weber will never reach the point totals of Big Al in his prime.

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MacInnis was far better defensively, slightly better offensively, and Weber is more physical (and has a better playoff beard).

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I don't see it.

MacInnis could play the body, but he wasn't a big time hitter. He was also quite a bit better at holding the line and creating offense than Weber.

I like the Rob Blake comparison for Weber

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MacInnis was far better defensively, slightly better offensively, and Weber is more physical (and has a better playoff beard).
But we're talking about his "prime" though (I'm referring to the Calgary years). At his prime Big Al wasn't exactly a shutdown machine either. The problem was that other teams rarely got the puck from him during that time and he'd end up putting points on the board.

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MacInnis was far better defensively, slightly better offensively, and Weber is more physical (and has a better playoff beard).
MacInnis never placed in any of those coaches or players polls for "best defensive defenseman." Weber has placed (though was never close to winning).

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MacInnis was not as rough, physical or sturdy as Weber.

Weber is not as creative, good of a passer or "smart" as MacInnis.

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MacInnis never placed in any of those coaches or players polls for "best defensive defenseman." Weber has placed (though was never close to winning).
Are you suggesting that the players can properly identify the best defensive defenseman?

That's like saying the general population can properly identify the best man to run the country..

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Similar, but he's still more like Rob Blake IMO

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Are you suggesting that the players can properly identify the best defensive defenseman?

That's like saying the general population can properly identify the best man to run the country..


I do think that it's pretty strong evidence that MacInnis wasn't "much better defensively" than Weber is.

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I don't see the MacInnis/Weber comparison at all based on their in game styles. Blake/Weber is a better comparison like a couple others have suggested. Not sure off hand who I would match up with MacInnis on the comparison scale and don't feel like thinking that hard right now.

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They are not that similar.

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I don't think Weber and chopper are all that similar...but boy do I miss watchin Al play

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Aside from being right-handed and having a great shot, they are two different defensemen. While MacInnis was decent in his own zone, Weber is better at it and he's definitely more complete, and a lot more physical.

If you want to compare Weber to someone from the past, I'm thinking more of a guy like Doug Wilson in his prime.

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Are you suggesting that the players can properly identify the best defensive defenseman?

That's like saying the general population can properly identify the best man to run the country..
Big fan of this post.

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Aside from being right-handed and having a great shot, they are two different defensemen. While MacInnis was decent in his own zone, Weber is better at it and he's definitely more complete, and a lot more physical.

If you want to compare Weber to someone from the past, I'm thinking more of a guy like Doug Wilson in his prime.
MacInnis was much better then "decent" in his own zone.

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Not sure off hand who I would match up with MacInnis on the comparison scale and don't feel like thinking that hard right now.
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not saying he's as good obviously but i definitely see similarities in the playing styles

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Yeah, not really.

I guess they were both defensemen... so there ya go.

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Wow, big Al is getting way underrated here. His defensive game was crazy good, and his shot was better than Webers. Only thing Weber has on him is his physical game and durability.

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They both had a big right hand bomb. That's it.

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Not that similar in style.

Plus, Weber is terrific, be he's not as good defensively as MacInnis was. He makes more mistakes, gets out of position when the other team cycles well from time to time, and he isn't as elusive or unpredictable in either end. He doesn't play as cerebral of a game. It goes without saying that MacInnis was superior offensively. Weber is more like Blake or a watered down version of prime Scott Stevens. More physical, clears the front of the net, more straight up-and-down.

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Not that similar in style.

Plus, Weber is terrific, be he's not as good defensively as MacInnis was. He makes more mistakes, gets out of position when the other team cycles well from time to time, and he isn't as elusive or unpredictable in either end. He doesn't play as cerebral of a game. It goes without saying that MacInnis was superior offensively. Weber is more like Blake or a watered down version of prime Scott Stevens. More physical, clears the front of the net, more straight up-and-down.
A watered down Scott Stevens isn't a good analogy for Weber. He just isn't as experienced yet. Weber could very well be the next Steven's on the right team.

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I always liked seeing MacInnis play, though I don't remember him for the physicality or defensive play that I associate with Weber.

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No one's shot struck the fear into opposing players like MacInnis'. Weber maybe shoots as hard as Al all-time but overall the shot isn't the same. MacInnis somehow had a really quick wind up and release which is strange to say about a slap shot. But he did. Plus he was accurate. MacInnis' slap shots didn't go all over the place, he kept them on net.

That being said Weber has a great shot, just like Chara, but in the context of a game no one could use it like MacInnis. Overall offensively you still give the clear edge to MacInnis, not a lot of defensemen controlled the game from an offensive standpoint like him.

Defensively and physically I give the edge to Weber. Not by a whole lot but if I am picking more of a shutdown guy I choose Weber. A guy who sets the tone with a hit and its Weber too. Not that MacInnis wasn't good defensively either.

Overall their styles are different but to compare them as defensemen that you would want on your team I still say it is hard to pass up MacInnis. Weber has done marvelous things on Nashville and lets face it, he has carried that franchise for a few years, but I don't think a team does any worse if their best player is MacInnis either. We also have the luxury of seeing an entire career vs. a partial one too

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