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07-21-2012, 01:45 PM
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Could Stu replace Sauer?

For his first year, Stu was very serviceable and did a fine job. Sure he had some moments we'd all like to forget, but that is expected of a rookie. Assuming Sauer is not back to start next year, as well as the fact that there is no guarantee he'll ever be capable of playing to the level we all saw him play at, is it unreasonable to think that big, tough, Stu could grow into a solid #5 dman and replace Sauer?

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Sauer was our #3 his rookie year and a very good one at that. So no, Bickel can't replace him and I think it's more likely we see Erixon as our 6th defensemen with Bickel as the 7.

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If Stu Bickel becomes a reliable #5 defenseman in the NHL I will eat a whole sofa.

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I highly doubt it.

He has the snarl but lacks the smarts and isn't very mobile. I think what you see is what you get from Bickel. Good teammate. But not an everyday defenseman. Perfect 7th D.

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No. I don't want him playing every game.

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Absolutely not.

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Fair enough.

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I don't see Stu as *******. But I don't think he'll ever be as good as Sauer. Stu fits the profile of a 6-7 guy. He's going to have to fight hard for whatever ice time he gets all the time. He gives our defense some edge and I like that. He plays best when he keeps everything simple but also mean and also disciplined. Keeping all that together all the time--consistently. He's going to have to work on his skating a bit more.

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Bickel was our worst d-man last year.

Just brutal.

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Bickel was our worst d-man last year.

Just brutal.
Extreme exaggeration, don't you think?

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Extreme exaggeration, don't you think?
Nope. I would rather have had Eminger or Woywitka out there.

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Nope. I would rather have had Eminger or Woywitka out there.
Now you're pushing it

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I think some have forgotten just how good a healthy Michael sauer is

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first and foremost, he needs to work on his skating if he wants to be an NHL regular. He is actually the worst skater I've seen at this level in all my years of watching hockey. With that being said, I like Stu and hope he can improve in that area and stick around for a few more years.

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Nope. I would rather have had Eminger or Woywitka out there.
Now that's funny--especially Woywitka. Jeff is Strudwick without the toughness.

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Doubt he can ever reach the type of player Sauer is.

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first and foremost, he needs to work on his skating if he wants to be an NHL regular. He is actually the worst skater I've seen at this level in all my years of watching hockey. With that being said, I like Stu and hope he can improve in that area and stick around for a few more years.
Colton Orr? Dale Purinton? Rich Pilon? Derek Boogaard? I could name a number of others.

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Colton Orr? Dale Purinton? Rich Pilon? Derek Boogaard? I could name a number of others.
Yeah, Bickel is, sadly, a much better skater than all of the guys you mentioned.

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This team can't ice a team that has both Bickel and Stralman in the lineup night in and night out.

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This team can't ice a team that has both Bickel and Stralman in the lineup night in and night out.
This team did ice a lineup with both Stralman and Bickel most nights and wound up in first place in their conference--only barely missing first overall in the league. Now you can argue about the contributions of those two especially Bickel but most nights at least during the regular season he was no embarrassment--he was okay.

Woywitka was not and Eminger did not come back from his injury well.

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This team did ice a lineup with both Stralman and Bickel most nights and wound up in first place in their conference--only barely missing first overall in the league. Now you can argue about the contributions of those two especially Bickel but most nights at least during the regular season he was no embarrassment--he was okay.

Woywitka was not and Eminger did not come back from his injury well.
Why are so many people clinging to what happened last year?

They finished first in a division that was absent of Crosby for the majority of the year and because they swept the Flyers. Are you really confident that both of those things are going to happen again?

Last year was last year. It means nothing to the upcoming season.

Right now, both of those players are marginal NHLers.

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Stu who? Surely you don't mean Bickel. The guy is not an NHL player. As of today the Rangers have 5 NHL defensemen. Someone should let Mr. Sather know.

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Why are so many people clinging to what happened last year?

They finished first in a division that was absent of Crosby for the majority of the year and because they swept the Flyers. Are you really confident that both of those things are going to happen again?

Last year was last year. It means nothing to the upcoming season.

Right now, both of those players are marginal NHLers.
Stralman is a marginal NHL player? Wrong.

When he's had the opportunity he's been a very effective NHL player.

In 60+ games he scored 30+ points. 40th among defensemen in 2009-2010.

The last two seasons, in 50 games he scored 18 points. Which is on par with the production from the 60 game 30 point season.

How many defensemen scored 30+ points last year? 43 defensemen. There are 30 teams in the league that need to fill 6 starting defense positions.

Stralman is not a marginal NHL player. He's capable of and does produce like a top four defenseman. Works hard. And is competent in his own end.

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Really? He's not even close to Sauer.

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Isn't Sauer, in his best moments, basically a given in our 2nd pairing? There is no way Bickel will be a 3rd or 4th defenseman. Maybe, and this is a BIG maybe, he'll become a regular 3rd pairing defenseman, and that would be on a team like the Blue Jackets or Oilers who are constantly at the bottom of the league.

Don't get me wrong, he's OK as a filler, but I would not want him to fill a regular spot on a Rangers roster. I appreciate what he's doing for our team, afaik he's a good locker room guy and I would love to have him as a 7th defenseman, but no way a regular.

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