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07-21-2012, 07:42 AM
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Gonna be a homer here and say Hershey might be the favorites for the cup again. Resigning Keith Aucoin was huge and the Bears have once again loaded up

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Gonna be a homer here and say Hershey might be the favorites for the cup again. Resigning Keith Aucoin was huge and the Bears have once again loaded up
Ah, ah, ah, not so fast. Marlies signed Aucoin. To go along with Kostka and Yeo, and maybe Zigomanis, these Marlies are looking pretty good yet again, even with potential losses of scrivens, Kadri, colborne, d'amigo and holzer.

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Ah, ah, ah, not so fast. Marlies signed Aucoin. To go along with Kostka and Yeo, and maybe Zigomanis, these Marlies are looking pretty good yet again, even with potential losses of scrivens, Kadri, colborne, d'amigo and holzer.
Two of these guys will be back. Colborne and D'Amigo will be Marlies next season.

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I gotta go with the homerism in me and give some love to Houston. Team is gonna be practically stacked. If there's a lockout, Granlund will be down their too and possibly Brodin.
I saw quite a bit of Zach Phillips while watching Seadogs highlights. Kid is really good... though he might of just been feeding off of Huberdeau.

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Ah, ah, ah, not so fast. Marlies signed Aucoin. To go along with Kostka and Yeo, and maybe Zigomanis, these Marlies are looking pretty good yet again, even with potential losses of scrivens, Kadri, colborne, d'amigo and holzer.
You're overvaluing Yeo if you consider him as a big impact signing. He is a good skater, has a little offensive flair, but is also prone to make defensive blunders from time to time. I wouldn't expect him to be a top pairing D man for Toronto.

Is there any legs or anything official on this rumor of him to TO, or is it still hearsay for now?

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I saw quite a bit of Zach Phillips while watching Seadogs highlights. Kid is really good... though he might of just been feeding off of Huberdeau.
He and his linemate Coyle will be down in Houston this year tearing it up.

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Gonna be a homer here and say Hershey might be the favorites for the cup again. Resigning Keith Aucoin was huge and the Bears have once again loaded up
You aren't concerned about your goaltending duo?

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You're overvaluing Yeo if you consider him as a big impact signing. He is a good skater, has a little offensive flair, but is also prone to make defensive blunders from time to time. I wouldn't expect him to be a top pairing D man for Toronto.

Is there any legs or anything official on this rumor of him to TO, or is it still hearsay for now?
Yeo is a good ECHLer.

The source on EP was a Google translator so im not certain it's accurate or official.

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The cup winning Norfolk Admirals, who become the Syracuse Crunch this season should be a stronger club than they were last year which is scary. Upgraded D, upgraded G, added 1st rd F Namestnikov. If the NHL shuts down all bets are off, but right now Syracuse has to be considered the Fav.

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You aren't concerned about your goaltending duo?
Not really. Grubauer had a solid first season in SC last year, and Sabourin's a solid backup who could step in as a starter if needed. I wouldn't have minded having some experience behind them, but we'll be going with 2 kids (Anderson & Kostenko) in Reading.

Slight concerns about the defense in front of them, conditionally. If Schilling doesn't make the Caps, he'll be a 25-minute a game guy for us, and you can live with McNeill, Stafford, Kundratek, Brouilette, Marshall, Oleksy & depth behind that. Drop Schilling, and you've got a deep, but not really noteworthy corps there. Not too sure about what help we could get if the NHL goes out, but I can't believe they'd be that stupid again given that it almost killed the sport the first time. Overall, it should be a fun season in the East.

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The cup winning Norfolk Admirals, who become the Syracuse Crunch this season should be a stronger club than they were last year which is scary. Upgraded D, upgraded G, added 1st rd F Namestnikov. If the NHL shuts down all bets are off, but right now Syracuse has to be considered the Fav.
We lost a lot of vets though.

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We lost a lot of vets though.
Losing Picard and Smith will hurt, and the possibility of losing either Conacher or Killorn (or both) to the Lightning wont help things much either. Not a chance they'll be better then next year as someone suggested.

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Norfolk in the East and Abbotsford in the West... Will go to a game 7!!! Norfolk will win in OT!

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The cup winning Norfolk Admirals, who become the Syracuse Crunch this season should be a stronger club than they were last year which is scary. Upgraded D, upgraded G, added 1st rd F Namestnikov. If the NHL shuts down all bets are off, but right now Syracuse has to be considered the Fav.
Really? You have lost Picard, Smith and Kostka. Signed no big free agents. Not sure Tokarski will be around in net. I think you are very over expecting. A lot of the good players are leacing. Anyway Norfolk until late January was nothing special. Were they really that good of a team or were they just playing reallyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy well. Sometimes a team playing hot defies logic and overachieves. Not convinced that it may not have been anything more than just getting hot at the right time.

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Not really. Grubauer had a solid first season in SC last year, and Sabourin's a solid backup who could step in as a starter if needed. I wouldn't have minded having some experience behind them, but we'll be going with 2 kids (Anderson & Kostenko) in Reading.

Slight concerns about the defense in front of them, conditionally. If Schilling doesn't make the Caps, he'll be a 25-minute a game guy for us, and you can live with McNeill, Stafford, Kundratek, Brouilette, Marshall, Oleksy & depth behind that. Drop Schilling, and you've got a deep, but not really noteworthy corps there. Not too sure about what help we could get if the NHL goes out, but I can't believe they'd be that stupid again given that it almost killed the sport the first time. Overall, it should be a fun season in the East.
One solid ECHL season doesn't necessarily mean that Grubauer will have success at the AHL level. Hershey has had recent success with ECHL grads in Neuvirth and Holtby, but at some point the law of averages is going to catch up with them.

IMO Sabourin was mediocre at best last season and may not have much left in the tank. I was honestly suprised that he was re-signed so quickly with a number of UFA goalies available.

Reading should be fun to watch this year with Anderson and Kostenko.

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One solid ECHL season doesn't necessarily mean that Grubauer will have success at the AHL level. Hershey has had recent success with ECHL grads in Neuvirth and Holtby, but at some point the law of averages is going to catch up with them.

IMO Sabourin was mediocre at best last season and may not have much left in the tank. I was honestly suprised that he was re-signed so quickly with a number of UFA goalies available.

Reading should be fun to watch this year with Anderson and Kostenko
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One solid ECHL season doesn't necessarily mean that Grubauer will have success at the AHL level. Hershey has had recent success with ECHL grads in Neuvirth and Holtby, but at some point the law of averages is going to catch up with them.
There is no "law of averages" at work here. A good young goalie is a good young goalie, and based on his numbers & the reports people gave on him last season, I'm comfortable with Grubauer as a good young goalie. Will he be a Neuvirth? Not likely, but I'm setting the bar at "good", not "Calder Cup lynchpin".

IMO Sabourin was mediocre at best last season and may not have much left in the tank. I was honestly suprised that he was re-signed so quickly with a number of UFA goalies available.
Absolutely will agree to disagree here. Sabo played behind a mediocre (at best) defense most nights, kept us in a lot of games and won a few for us outright. Add in his value as a mentor to the kids, his voice in the locker room an the fact that he wants to play here, and the signing was an absolute lock for Hershey.

Reading should be fun to watch this year with Anderson and Kostenko.
Finally, we agree.
They're going to be a solid team this year, considering the depth already on Hershey's roster and some of the guys the Royals have signed. May have to get down there for a few games. Word is the Royals will possibly be looking to set some discount deals up for Bears STH's working around Hershey off-nights.
Also, note that your question was "You aren't concerned about your goaltending duo?". For most Bears fans, goaltending shapes up as the least of our worries. We have promising youngsters, depth, a veteran presence, and Olaf Kolzig as an organizational goalie coach. We'll be just fine.

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Also, note that your question was "You aren't concerned about your goaltending duo?". For most Bears fans, goaltending shapes up as the least of our worries. We have promising youngsters, depth, a veteran presence, and Olaf Kolzig as an organizational goalie coach. We'll be just fine.
Agreed. As an Albany Devils fan, I would love to have Hershey's so called problems.

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Also, note that your question was "You aren't concerned about your goaltending duo?". For most Bears fans, goaltending shapes up as the least of our worries. We have promising youngsters, depth, a veteran presence, and Olaf Kolzig as an organizational goalie coach. We'll be just fine.
Reading might be ok. But Elmira and Reading fans have come to terms with the fact things can change in a microsecond.

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Alright no one is answering my question so I'll ask it again. How about Houston? They'll have a number of good prospects coming in such as Charlie Coyle, Zach Phillips, Brett Bulmer, and Jason Zucker. A few other players that may arrive in Houston, depending on what moves are made between now and the start of the season, include Johan Larsson, Granlund, and Jonas Brodin.

I'm trying not to be a homer but I think they'll have at least a decent team.
That team is never gonna be the same without Yeo.

I think we'll make the playoffs (love the team, go to a ton of games), but don't see us making it past the semis. Really depends on how everyone meshes.

As long as Hackett's still down here, though, we're gonna be good. He was absolutely amazing in the CCF two years ago, I think he's got top 15 potential in the NHL. And the scary thing is that Lehner was easily better.

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Really? You have lost Picard, Smith and Kostka. Signed no big free agents. Not sure Tokarski will be around in net. I think you are very over expecting. A lot of the good players are leacing. Anyway Norfolk until late January was nothing special. Were they really that good of a team or were they just playing reallyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy well. Sometimes a team playing hot defies logic and overachieves. Not convinced that it may not have been anything more than just getting hot at the right time.
Picard scored all of 6 goals in the regular season, big whoop, did get hot in the playoffs though. Smith is replaced by Kyle Wilson, an equally good AHL vet. Kostka is replaced by Korobov, a KHL player. Tokarski is under contract, isn't going anywhere and will be joined by Helenius a 1st rd G from a few years back who was dominating the Finnish league. Losing Conacher will hurt, but Namestnikov should help that. Did they just get hot for the last 3 months, maybe, or maybe it just took all the rookies a month or two to settle in. Time will tell.

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Picard scored all of 6 goals in the regular season, big whoop, did get hot in the playoffs though. Smith is replaced by Kyle Wilson, an equally good AHL vet. Kostka is replaced by Korobov, a KHL player. Tokarski is under contract, isn't going anywhere and will be joined by Helenius a 1st rd G from a few years back who was dominating the Finnish league. Losing Conacher will hurt, but Namestnikov should help that. Did they just get hot for the last 3 months, maybe, or maybe it just took all the rookies a month or two to settle in. Time will tell.
Tokarski won't be up in Tampa as a perhaps backup?

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