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07-23-2012, 02:45 PM
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Maybe another first? Not really sure what else they would send without Stefan.

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Dubisnky, Erixson, 1st and Anisimov

Better than I expected for Howson, even if Erixson is really risky.

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Dubinsky, Erixson, McDonough, and 1st

Ouch. Losing McDonough basically makes this deal pretty awful for the Rangers.

Edit: nevermind...it's Anisimov. Still ouch but not NEARLY as bad.

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Dubinsky, Erixson, McDonough, and 1st

Ouch. Losing McDonough basically makes this deal pretty awful for the Rangers.
Anisimov is the fourth piece, not McDonagh.

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07-23-2012, 02:48 PM
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Ooof @ Howson.

Don't they have a jillion forwards now, too? Could we swing something for Dubinsky/Anisimov before they even play a game in a different blue/white?

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Dubinsky, Erixson and 1st believed to be 3 of 4 pieces included in Nash trade.

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Artem Anisimov is the 4th piece in the Rick Nash deal.
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07-23-2012, 02:49 PM
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Terrible deal for the Jackets.

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Bryz played in Anaheim before Phoenix. He's made 136 non-Coyotes starts. Sub-.910 goaltender when not playing for the 'Yotes. Facts.

Also, I don't think Bryz and Miller had "nearly identical" numbers last year. .916 =/= .909. By your logic, Ryan Miller had "nearly identical" numbers to Pekka Rinne (.923).

(Please don't tell me you were including GAA, one of the dumbest stats in sports, in your statement. Surely you know that's driven by shots faced, and SV% is a much better indicator of goaltender performance.)
Games played: 59/61
Wins: 33/31
Losses: 16/21
Minutes: 3415/3536
GA: 141/150
SO: 6/6

You can throw out whatever stats you consider stupid, I guess. Miller's still not "far better" as was the original argument.

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Terrible deal for the Jackets.
I think it's terrible for both sides

Nash and Dubinsky are very overrated.
Erixson probably won't even play for Columbus.

Though the Rangers did certainly upgrade their forward talent overall.

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Wow Columbus got fleeced. Horrid trade. Why did we sit on our thumbs?

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Terrible deal for the Jackets.
Dubinsky, Anisimov, Erixon and a 1st for Rick Nash isn't terrible to me when Nash wants out and has a short list of teams that he'll except a deal to.

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Pretty fair deal. Rick Nash is easily one of the most overrated players in the league and his contract sucks.

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Terrible deal for the Jackets.
It was as good as they were going to do at this point, and Howson realized it. They got an elite prospect (Erixon), two good defensive forwards who can both play center and are offensively able (Anismov and Dubi), and a 1st. They were never getting the Kreiders, Brayden Schenns, Sean Couturiers, or Logan Coutures of the world.

I think Howson is as incompetent as any GM in the league, but they added N. Foligno, Dubi, and Anisimov this offseason. Those guys all compete. And Jackets fans have to be salivating at a future pairing of Erixon-Murray to pair with the vastly underrated Tyutin-Nikitin pairing. Now if they can just get a goaltender who can stop some pucks...

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Wow Columbus got fleeced. Horrid trade. Why did we sit on our thumbs?
Nash wouldn't except a trade to Buffalo.

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I'm pretty sure Scott Howson could find a way to trade $5 bills, and still lose 75 cents.

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Games played: 59/61
Wins: 33/31
Losses: 16/21
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GA: 141/150
SO: 6/6

You can throw out whatever stats you consider stupid, I guess. Miller's still not "far better" as was the original argument.
Wins/Losses are a team stat. So, yeah, it needs to be put in its proper context. Similar minutes? Fine. But the fact of the matter is Bryz stopped a fairly significant lower percentage of shots faced than Miller. That's a big deal. There's a big difference between .916 and .909, just as there is from .923 (Rinne) to .909. A .923 can put you in the Vezina conversation some years, while .916 is a slightly above-average season.

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Let's consider the body of work of scott howson over two years:

Out: Voracek, Nash, 8th overall (COUTURIER)
In: Wisniewski (via UFA), Dubinsky, Erixson, Jack Johnson, 30th overall 2012, 1st rounder in 2013 (likely 20+), Anisimov

Turning Quality into Quantity??

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Wow Columbus got fleeced. Horrid trade. Why did we sit on our thumbs?
Picture me 'trollin.

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Dubinsky, Anisimov, Erixon and a 1st for Rick Nash isn't terrible to me when Nash wants out and has a short list of teams that he'll except a deal to.
That's a good point. I still can't believe the Rags didn't have to give up Stepan or Kreider though.

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Nash wouldn't except a trade to Buffalo.
Why and where did you hear this?

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Picture me 'trollin.
Confused. Are you saying that wasn't a horrid trade?

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Why and where did you hear this?
His list has been known for quiet a while.

And we were not even close to being on there.

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Why and where did you hear this?
He had a no-move clause, and gave Howson a list of teams he'd waive it for. Buffalo wasn't on that list.

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So...see ya guys in another week for the next signing/trade?

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Why and where did you hear this?
The statements about which teams he would accept a trade to never included Buffalo.

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