As for Dallas matching, Benn is their franchise player, I think Dallas has a new rich owner and their fans have said the team will definitely match anything that is 10M a year and under (as in front loaded).
This is gonna sting
$1,110,249 or below - No Compensation
Over $1,110,249 to $1,682,194 - 3rd round pick
Over $1,682,194 to $3,364,391 - 2nd round pick
Over $3,364,391 to $5,046,585 - 1st round pick, 3rd
Over $5,046,585 to $6,728,781 - 1st round pick, 2nd, 3rd
Over $6,728,781 To $8,410,976 - Two 1st Round Picks, 2nd, 3rd
Over $8,410,976 - Four 1st Round Picks
You think? If they would match anything why isnt he signed yet?
$1,110,249 or below - No Compensation
Over $1,110,249 to $1,682,194 - 3rd round pick
Over $1,682,194 to $3,364,391 - 2nd round pick
Over $3,364,391 to $5,046,585 - 1st round pick, 3rd
Over $5,046,585 to $6,728,781 - 1st round pick, 2nd, 3rd
Over $6,728,781 To $8,410,976 - Two 1st Round Picks, 2nd, 3rd
Over $8,410,976 - Four 1st Round Picks
You think? If they would match anything why isnt he signed yet?
This is so offbase. We have precedent for large multiyear, multimillion dollar offer sheets. We've seen it happen and we've seen the follow up to those situations immediately after they happen and then at 1, 2 and 3 year intervals.
Did the Thomas Vanek offer sheet suddenly raise the cost of every <a class="inlineAdmedialink" href="#">single</a> RFA winger in the league? This whole idea that there's some kind of waterfall effect is ridiculous. Yes, players are used as comparisons in negotiations for new contracts. But that's where it ends.
The Weber offer sheet is reckless not because of the money he's getting, but how he's getting it. This mega front-loaded mega bonus laden deal is what has people talking about how ridiculous it is. Not the fact that he got 14 years, $110 million.
To add to this, I can tell you for a fact that comparables are only used in uniform situations. As in, a player who went to arbitration will only be used as a comparable for someone going into arb. An offersheet player is not ever going to be compared to anyone but a player who has received an offer sheet and is going to his team first to see if they will negotiate based on that. Contracts are based largely on comparables but they are also done very scientifically and specifically. An offersheet contract has no effect on other contracts, except for maybe encouraging other teams to go a similar route.
To add to this, I can tell you for a fact that comparables are only used in uniform situations. As in, a player who went to arbitration will only be used as a comparable for someone going into arb. An offersheet player is not ever going to be compared to anyone but a player who has received an offer sheet and is going to his team first to see if they will negotiate based on that. Contracts are based largely on comparables but they are also done very scientifically and specifically. An offersheet contract has no effect on other contracts, except for maybe encouraging other teams to go a similar route.
I'm sure gonchar would waive it, even if he doesn't, he's off the books next year. We have a ton of cap space.
Doesn't weber play on the left side? my bad if so .. anyways, does it really matter if he plays on the same side, he just won't play with EK even strengh
Murray has been trying to trade Gonchar all yr, nobody wants him at $5.5 mil. He may have some trade value at the trade deadline this yr on the last yr of that contract, if he has anything left. My guess is that he plays out the yr in Ottawa, that Murray can't trade him & plays in Russia next season, if he doesn't retire.
Murray has been trying to trade Gonchar all yr, nobody wants him at $5.5 mil. He may have some trade value at the trade deadline this yr on the last yr of that contract, if he has anything left. My guess is that he plays out the yr in Ottawa, that Murray can't trade him & plays in Russia next season, if he doesn't retire.
Gonchar's NMC actually changes this year. On Jan. 1st until the trade deadline, the Sens can trade him to a list of 10 teams that Gonchar provides them at that time.
pretty sure the maximum divisible term for an offer sheet is 5.
True. After you go past a 5 year term on an offer sheet, the compensation model is set by whatever your total contract offer is divided by 5. This is why the Weber compensation will be 4 1st rounders even though the AAV is technically below what that threshold is.
And anyways, in your fantasy-land scenario you'd better hope it's 4 1st rounders and not 2 1st's, a 2nd and a 3rd as the Sens do not possess their 2nd rounder in next year's draft (traded in Bishop deal) and hence, by the terms of the CBA would be unable to tender an offer sheet.
With a triple cap, and salary expenses linked to revenues, by definition, offer sheets cant be inflationary. If rfa salaries go up then some other salaries will have to come down.
One of the caps is the individual player cap. When the cba started, the team cap was $39 mil and the player cap was about $7.5 mil. Now the team cap is $70mil and the max player sal is $14 mil.
And yet Weber is getting a deal that pays him a cap hit of barely more than Spezza took 8 years ago. Nashville is getting a chance to lock up their star player for the rest of his career at 2004 cap hit levels. And we are feeling sorry for them?!?
The deal is structured as paying him the max salary in the first years, although it is split into $1mil in salary and $13mil in bonuses. The only difference with the bonuses is that they are due on the first day of each contract year, July 1st, instead of paid in pay cheques twice a month.
And that they are guaranteed regardless whether there is a lockout or not. This means Nashville to match would have to pay out $28 mil in salaries to Weber before another game is played if the teams are locked out for a year.
Now lets be clear here. Nashville, who had tried to sign parise and suter, as a gesture to weber to get him to also sign there, obviously do have the resources if there is no lockout to sign this deal. The risk, what is making it so hard for them, isnt the big bonus payments up front that give them this permanent great home team discount of a cap hit for Weber, the risk is that Gary Bettman is going to lock the players out for a year to claw back $300 mil dollars in order to save small markets like Nashville and they wont make any money but still have to pay $28 mil in salaries.
The slimy move isnt the offer sheet or its structure - its Gary Bettman threatening his 3rd lockout!
Gonchar's NMC actually changes this year. On Jan. 1st until the trade deadline, the Sens can trade him to a list of 10 teams that Gonchar provides them at that time.
I realize that but it still doesn't give him any value. I doubt any team wants him at his age & with that contract except maybe at the deadline when the contract may only have $1 or $2 mil left on it. He's too slow, too old, his skills have diminished & he is terrible defensively. I see this as his last season in the NHL.
I realize that but it still doesn't give him any value. I doubt any team wants him at his age & with that contract except maybe at the deadline when the contract may only have $1 or $2 mil left on it. He's too slow, too old, his skills have diminished & he is terrible defensively. I see this as his last season in the NHL.
I was never arguing that the Sens were even interesting in dealing him now, I was just providing some info on how his NMC worked.
The only way he gets dealt is if the Sens crap out this year and become sellers at the deadline.
