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07-23-2012, 05:34 PM
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For a decent return I'd love to see him and his huge cap hit off the Wild's books.

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07-23-2012, 05:35 PM
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For a decent return I'd love to see him and his huge cap hit off the Wild's books.
What kind of return exactly?

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07-23-2012, 05:46 PM
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What kind of return exactly?
Maybe a top 4 d-man but it would be tough to get a young guy with how old Heatley is and his declining value and huge cap hit. Hopefully he can have a bounce back year this year to up his value and we can make a move next year when our kids have matured more and are hopefully ready to take his spot in the roster. So I would rather just keep him for this year and ship him out the next. That is unless we think he would re-sign for a much more reasonable contract.

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07-23-2012, 05:48 PM
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He was basically the team's MVP last season and with the additions I see his job getting much easier. i really think he'll thrive this season.

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07-23-2012, 05:49 PM
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Maybe a top 4 d-man but it would be tough to get a young guy with how old Heatley is and his declining value and huge cap hit. Hopefully he can have a bounce back year this year to up his value and we can make a move next year when our kids have matured more and are hopefully ready to take his spot in the roster. So I would rather just keep him for this year and ship him out the next. That is unless we think he would re-sign for a much more reasonable contract.
I think people are seriously underestimating how much value Heatley has to this organization...and I think his numbers WILL increase this year with a healthy Mikko Koivu and Zach Parise as linemates.

Personally, if it works out like I'm anticipating, I'd like to see GMCF re-sign Heatley to a new deal when he is up for UFA...something about 3-4 years and between $4-$5 million/AAV.

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07-23-2012, 05:55 PM
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I think people are seriously underestimating how much value Heatley has to this organization...and I think his numbers WILL increase this year with a healthy Mikko Koivu and Zach Parise as linemates.

Personally, if it works out like I'm anticipating, I'd like to see GMCF re-sign Heatley to a new deal when he is up for UFA...something about 3-4 years and between $4-$5 million/AAV.
Agreed. He was one of the few reliable pieces of last year. Was pretty shocked at his 2-way abilities too. Plus, he was well liked in the locker room. He'd be a great teacher for some of the kids.

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07-23-2012, 05:58 PM
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He'll get $5-$6 million or gets traded. I don't see how his salary would decrease more then that, or then he'd really want to stay in Minnesota.

E: The CBA ofcourse has its role in this.

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07-23-2012, 06:06 PM
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I think people are seriously underestimating how much value Heatley has to this organization...and I think his numbers WILL increase this year with a healthy Mikko Koivu and Zach Parise as linemates.

Personally, if it works out like I'm anticipating, I'd like to see GMCF re-sign Heatley to a new deal when he is up for UFA...something about 3-4 years and between $4-$5 million/AAV.
3 years @ $4m per would be ideal for me. That way he can settle on the 3rd line (if necessary) and it wouldn't be quite as much of a salary burden.

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07-23-2012, 06:07 PM
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His NTC clause window may have already closed anyway.

Yeo loves him. Not saying he couldn't be had for the right deal, but I don't see it happening this year.

Besides, Heater says the wheels are feeling better now than anytime in the last 5 years after a recent minor-ish knee surgery to clean up some junk. Give him a chance to show it, and what he can do with Zach as a threat on the other side. I think that line is going to be very balanced now, and a real handful for the opposition.

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07-23-2012, 06:13 PM
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His NTC clause window may have already closed anyway.

Yeo loves him. Not saying he couldn't be had for the right deal, but I don't see it happening this year.

Besides, Heater says the wheels are feeling better now than anytime in the last 5 years after a recent minor-ish knee surgery to clean up some junk. Give him a chance to show it, and what he can do with Zach as a threat on the other side. I think that line is going to be very balanced now, and a real handful for the opposition.
TBH, that's what I'm excited about. Really curious to see how that goes.

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07-23-2012, 06:15 PM
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I am VERY interested in seeing what a whole season of Parise - Koivu - Heatley can do.

So unless the piece coming back is pure awesomeness, then nah..

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TBH, that's what I'm excited about. Really curious to see how that goes.
Well. . . one does need to remember that aging athletes have on occassion been noted to be a little too "rosy scenario" with that kind of thing. . . but, yeah, if there's a reasonable chance of "the Old Heater" and not just "an older Heater" showing up to camp, I'm up for a look-see before doing anything rash. He's not *that* old. It's a reasonable possibility.

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Well. . . one does need to remember that aging athletes have on occassion been noted to be a little too "rosy scenario" with that kind of thing. . . but, yeah, if there's a reasonable chance of "the Old Heater" and not just "an older Heater" showing up to camp, I'm up for a look-see before doing anything rash. He's not *that* old. It's a reasonable possibility.
He's only 31...if healthy, he should have another 3-5 productive seasons ahead of him at least.

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07-23-2012, 06:21 PM
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He's only 31...if healthy, he should have another 3-5 productive seasons ahead of him at least.
Agree..

If the chemistry between him Captain and Zach is good i could see him getting back on his scoring-track and netting maybe 40 a season.

He knows how to do it, he just need the guys around him.

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07-23-2012, 06:28 PM
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He's only 31...if healthy, he should have another 3-5 productive seasons ahead of him at least.
Oh, I agree. I think there'd been some head-scratching around about how he could have slowed down that much on the ice at his (not that old) age. . . now, maybe, we know; and it --maybe-- has been corrected.

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07-23-2012, 06:33 PM
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Well. . . one does need to remember that aging athletes have on occassion been noted to be a little too "rosy scenario" with that kind of thing. . . but, yeah, if there's a reasonable chance of "the Old Heater" and not just "an older Heater" showing up to camp, I'm up for a look-see before doing anything rash. He's not *that* old. It's a reasonable possibility.
We're still not gonna get the Atlanta/Ottawa Heater, but he's far from old. Although, I saw a couple Nucks' fans saying that Richards and Gabby are aging fast and past their primes, so......................

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07-23-2012, 06:51 PM
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The f*&^%$n All Star stays.

This team has a hard enough time scoring as it is.

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07-23-2012, 06:56 PM
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We're still not gonna get the Atlanta/Ottawa Heater, but he's far from old. Although, I saw a couple Nucks' fans saying that Richards and Gabby are aging fast and past their primes, so......................
I think some of these guys. . . they get drafted at 18 and everyone is carping on them to bulk up, bulk up, bulk up . . . and eventually they get not too fat, but still too heavy and immobile. When I look at Heater, I think he could stand to lose 10 lbs, even if it is muscle. But, still hopeful and cautiously optimistic about significant improvement from getting the knee cleaned up!

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07-23-2012, 07:13 PM
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We're still not gonna get the Atlanta/Ottawa Heater, but he's far from old. Although, I saw a couple Nucks' fans saying that Richards and Gabby are aging fast and past their primes, so......................
Then what are the Sedin's? They're in between Gabs and Richards in age if I remember right.....

Man, some fans are just plain blind...

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Parise helps big-time, but this team is still a bit short on pure goal scoring talent. Heater and Gooch are the only other guys who fit the profile of goal-scoring wing.

Hopefully Zucker will join the ranks one day, or Coyle if he stays at wing, but it is still a pretty thin slice, organizationally speaking.

With Big Bear gone, we need all the scorers we can get.

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07-23-2012, 08:50 PM
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Then what are the Sedin's? They're in between Gabs and Richards in age if I remember right.....

Man, some fans are just plain blind...
Richards (May 1980)
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If Gabby and Richards are aging, then the Sedins are right there with them.

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We're still not gonna get the Atlanta/Ottawa Heater, but he's far from old.:

If your refering to 50 goals a season Heater then; no.. 40 on the other hand, should be possible.

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If your refering to 50 goals a season Heater then; no.. 40 on the other hand, should be possible.
Heck, we should be celebrating if we can get a guy to score 30 on this team.

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TBH, that's what I'm excited about. Really curious to see how that goes.
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