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07-24-2012, 03:40 PM
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Honestly at this point everything is a let down. We could get some great young dman and im still going to be numb. This would have been a dream come true to have gotten Shea Weber. Im so depressed, time to holla at some girls and engage in meaningless intercourse. Maybe Ill have them wear a shea weber t shirt.

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Rags fan made mention of all the african kids running around in Weber Flyer jerseys, screams a photoshop

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ok so now what do we do. or what are flyers next moves


go after ryan now? doan, as far as a D do we look at kubina

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On that matter, Beefy-Fishy may have a temporary handle as the situation dictates. "Hamburger Train" is a step toward regaining original spendor. "Pork Soda" is another possibility.


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ok so now what do we do. or what are flyers next moves


go after ryan now? doan, as far as a D do we look at kubina
You are unbelievable.

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On that matter, Beefy-Fishy may have a temporary handle as the situation dictates. "Hamburger Train" is a step toward regaining original spendor. "Pork Soda" is another possibility.

Yes, but until then...


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Wrote this on the main board, but now that it's all over, I would've offered the Predators the following package for Weber:

Brayden Schenn
Luke Schenn
Jakub Voracek OR Matt Read (Poile chooses)
Flyers 2013 first round pick

Then I'd have gone real hard after Shane Doan to fill one of the vacant forward spots. Is the above a **** ton to give up, and will most people cry "omg thank god you're not homer herp derp"? Probably. I just take that to mean the value is probably pretty close. Flame away, children.

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ok so now what do we do. or what are flyers next moves


go after ryan now? doan, as far as a D do we look at kubina
Seriously, guy, what the ****? I can't even tell if you're being serious or sarcastic.


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Wrote this on the main board, but now that it's all over, I would've offered the Predators the following package for Weber:

Brayden Schenn
Luke Schenn
Jakub Voracek OR Matt Read (Poile chooses)
Flyers 2013 first round pick

Then I'd have gone real hard after Shane Doan to fill one of the vacant forward spots. Is the above a **** ton to give up, and will most people cry "omg thank god you're not homer herp derp"? Probably. I just take that to mean the value is probably pretty close. Flame away, children.
no way

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For what its worth (not much) Dreger tweets:

"Fair to say Weber and those close to him are surprised Preds matched. You don't sign a sheet like that if you expect the team to match."

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Mannnnn.

That's a bummer.

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Wrote this on the main board, but now that it's all over, I would've offered the Predators the following package for Weber:

Brayden Schenn
Luke Schenn
Jakub Voracek OR Matt Read (Poile chooses)
Flyers 2013 first round pick

Then I'd have gone real hard after Shane Doan to fill one of the vacant forward spots. Is the above a **** ton to give up, and will most people cry "omg thank god you're not homer herp derp"? Probably. I just take that to mean the value is probably pretty close. Flame away, children.
If you are the GM and you think the team is better with Weber and maybe Doan, then go for it.

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For what its worth (not much) Dreger tweets:

"Fair to say Weber and those close to him are surprised Preds matched. You don't sign a sheet like that if you expect the team to match."
I don't know if he's covering his tracks or what?

Is he really going to holdout? I doubt it.

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ok so now what do we do. or what are flyers next moves


go after ryan now? doan, as far as a D do we look at kubina
Oh well, what can you do but move on. It was a good try but it wasn't to be.

What's next? Sign Voracek and Bourdon.

And, well, possibly acquire a Dman. I would not be surprised to see Bouwmeester rumblings again. We can afford his hit, for only two more years. With him and Coburn, we'd have lots of speed and size back there....

Signing Doan? I think he'll stay in Phoenix, but if not, maybe?

Trade for Ryan? At what price?

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This. If he was serious about Philly all he had to do was wait a year. The thing is if he did that it would have probably cost him the chance at a contract over 7 years because of the new CBA. Greed won the day.
He was serious about getting out of Nashville and getting a mega contract before the CBA.

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"Fair to say Weber and those close to him are surprised Preds matched. You don't sign a sheet like that if you expect the team to match."

I highly doubt Weber thought Nashville would take such a large chance in crippling their franchise to resign him.

Either way like you said he got his 110mil contract didnt he? So at the end of the day he cant be that unhappy.

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I give the Predators a lot of credit, but they've crushed my dreams. ********.

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Wrote this on the main board, but now that it's all over, I would've offered the Predators the following package for Weber:

Brayden Schenn
Luke Schenn
Jakub Voracek OR Matt Read (Poile chooses)
Flyers 2013 first round pick

Then I'd have gone real hard after Shane Doan to fill one of the vacant forward spots. Is the above a **** ton to give up, and will most people cry "omg thank god you're not homer herp derp"? Probably. I just take that to mean the value is probably pretty close. Flame away, children.
It sounds to me that Poile wanted Schenn and Couts and not one or the other which to me is way uncalled for... hence the offersheet which Poile and the ownership took umbrage too and felt the Flyers pushed them around. Kind of an unfair characterization considering we were just leveraging the chip we had which was deep pockets. From Holmgren's standpoint he was offended that Poile perhaps wouldn't budge on Couts and Schenn and Poile was offended that we opened the vault on him. All things considering the both of them drove a hard bargain and should consider it a draw from a personal level. If Poile is ******** then that is on him for walking around with his boxer's on backwards mimimicking his butt buddy Howson!

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Wrote this on the main board, but now that it's all over, I would've offered the Predators the following package for Weber:

Brayden Schenn
Luke Schenn
Jakub Voracek OR Matt Read (Poile chooses)
Flyers 2013 first round pick

Then I'd have gone real hard after Shane Doan to fill one of the vacant forward spots. Is the above a **** ton to give up, and will most people cry "omg thank god you're not homer herp derp"? Probably. I just take that to mean the value is probably pretty close. Flame away, children.
Had Holmgren offered that Poile definitely would have taken it. I don't think he offered a package anywhere close to that good and rightfully so. That's why Poile matched with likely no hesitation.

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Which is funny, since their defense is in worse shape than ours.
The Pens don't have Weber and the Flyers don't have Weber s both teams have defense issues. Only one of the GMs from those two teams has integrity and the respect of the other GM's. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out over time with future trades and considerations. I give the Flyers credit for trying to play "Walmart" with the little guy and take what you want, every team in the thinks about doing it to some extent I'm sure. I'm not sure how much these guys stick together though. Maybe Homer plans to hang it up soon and doesn't have to worry about his rep. Who knows? At least it gave me something, hockey related, to watch over the last few days.

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It sounds to me that Poile wanted Schenn and Couts and not one or the other which to me is way uncalled for... hence the offersheet which Poile and the ownership took umbrage too and felt the Flyers pushed them around. Kind of an unfair characterization considering we were just leveraging the chip we had which was deep pockets. From Holmgren's standpoint he was offended that Poile perhaps wouldn't budge on Couts and Schenn and Poile was offended that we opened the vault on him. All things considering the both drive a hard bargain and should consider it a draw from a personal level. If Poile is ******** then that is on him for walking around with his boxer's on backwards mimimicking his butt buddy Howson!
Oh, without a doubt Poile wanted Schenn AND Couturier. Dreger said as much last week. I'm just saying there's no way I would've included both and instead would've countered with a proposal of the Schenn brothers, Read/Voracek, and a first round pick.

Poile and the Preds ownership had every right to view this as the Flyers trying to push them around... because they were. The Flyers were clearly attempting to assert their considerable financial prowess under the auspices of an offer sheet.

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If there's a lockout, I hope the Predators lose so much money they have to fold and move to Quebec.

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I have to say, our D has issues. There is a big lack of puck movers there and a bunch of question marks.

I just really hope this doesnt lead to a knee jerk move. Knee jerk moves will burn you every time

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If there's a lockout, I hope the Predators lose so much money they have to fold and move to Quebec.
And here come the Preds fans to reprimand you.

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