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Rangers Prospect Poll: #2

View Poll Results: Who is our #2 prospect?
D Brady Skjei 0 0%
LW Carl Hagelin 61 62.89%
D Dylan McIlrath 8 8.25%
C J.T. Miller 26 26.80%
RW Christian Thomas 1 1.03%
RW Jesper Fasth 1 1.03%
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07-24-2012, 06:23 PM
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Rangers Prospect Poll: #2

LW Chris Kreider easily won round 1 and D Brady Skjei is added to the poll.

Please write who you want added to the poll, and give a reason for it. This makes the discussion here more lively.


THE RULES

WHO IS A PROSPECT: We can't all have different standards based on what we each want personally. We are on the HF board, so let's follow their rules. The standard for what's a prospect is here: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/whatmakesaprospect

* Please don't write that so-and-so should or should not be a prospect. It's not up to each individual here to decide, it's up to the HF rules.

HOW TO RANK PROSPECTS: Based on their value in a hypothetical trade or waiver draft. This takes into consideration a prospect's ceiling, how close he's to making it, his health, work ethic, the whole deal. Imagine there was a prospect waiver draft and you could keep only one prospect. That guy is our #1 prospect. Then imagine we had one more waiver protection. That guy is our #2 prospect.


TOP PROSPECTS

1. LW Chris Kreider


Chris Kreider
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Born Apr 30 1991 -- Boxford, MA
Height 6.03 -- Weight 225 -- Shoots L

2011-12 Boston College H-East 44 23 22 45 66
2011-12 New York Rangers NHL 18 5 2 7 6



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Definitely Miller for me.

Can see him becoming another Kesler type. Maybe a little less rough.

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Gotta go with Hagelin this round. The kid has proven to be a third liner already in his rookie season and he'll continue to improve. Just as last year people thought that McDonagh more or less reached his peak only to be surprised, watch Hagelin surprise us as well. Probably not by as much as McDonagh, but he'll continue to improve. At a minimum he's already a third liner. He has a good chance of becoming a good top-6 forward.

Add Michael St. Croix, an offensive dynamo.

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Definitely Miller for me.

Can see him becoming another Kesler type. Maybe a little less rough.
A 40-40 guy?

Or do you just mean the two way game.

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A 40-40 guy?

Or do you just mean the two way game.
Two-way 60 point guy.

And Kesler has never been a 40-40 guy. He had the one 40 goal season, but it's an aberration, IMO. Love the guy, but he scored 33 goals against non-playoff teams that year.

He's an elite 2C. I think Miller could be that.

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Definitely Miller for me.

Can see him becoming another Kesler type. Maybe a little less rough.

I will be happy if when Miller is at his peak, he'll play on par with what Hagelin just did last season: 38 points in 64 games, which would be about 50 games over a full season at the same pace.

In fact, I'll be satisfied if Miller will average 38 points per season over the full 82 games (as opposed to 64).

While it is possible that Miller will become superior to Hagelin, at this point, you have to go with the Swede because he's so much more proven, and Miller does not have a significantly higher upside. The only way you take a less proven guy is if he can potentially become much better in the future than the proven player (a.k.a., Michael St. Croix over Roman Horak). That isn't the case here.

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Hagelin, add Michael St. Croix.

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Has to be Hagelin here

Add St. Croix

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I will be happy if when Miller is at his peak, he'll play on par with what Hagelin just did last season: 38 points in 64 games, which would be about 50 games over a full season at the same pace.

In fact, I'll be satisfied if Miller will average 38 points per season over the full 82 games (as opposed to 64).

While it is possible that Miller will become superior to Hagelin, at this point, you have to go with the Swede because he's so much more proven, and Miller does not have a significantly higher upside. The only way you take a less proven guy is if he can potentially become much better in the future than the proven player (a.k.a., Michael St. Croix over Roman Horak). That isn't the case here.
I personally believe Miller has a much higher upside than Hagelin.

Love Hagelin, but I think he is what he is. a 2nd/3rd line complimentary player. I think Miller can be a catalyst.

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I personally believe Miller has a much higher upside than Hagelin.

Love Hagelin, but I think he is what he is. a 2nd/3rd line complimentary player. I think Miller can be a catalyst.

Yup...I think Miller's ceiling is much higher than Hagelin. That being said, due to where Hagelin is at this moment, as compared to Miller, I went with Hagelin. Next year at this time, I believe Miller will be the better player.

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Voted for Hagelin since he is a proven 3rd liner at this point with some upside.

At the risk of sounding like a crazy person, add Fogarty. He has every tool possible you want an NHL center to possess at this point, but is not developed to a point where any are them are close to good enough yet. Very excited to see what he can do at ND this year.

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Hags. Add MSC.

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Hagelin, Miller, McIlrath in this order

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Hagelin

I think Miller will be the better player in the long run, but we need to see more.

Add MSC.

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Rangers picking Dman in the draft look good now after Nash trade

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McIlrath will be better than Miller. People soured on him as a top-10 pick from the second he was chosen, but he's a good player who's progressing better than Miller so far. Hope the hate for him ends.

McIlrath is exactly what we need: a bruising, crease-clearing right-side defenseman. Can't wait to see him in preseason.

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McIlrath will be better than Miller. People soured on him as a top-10 pick from the second he was chosen, but he's a good player who's progressing better than Miller so far. Hope the hate for him ends.

McIlrath is exactly what we need: a bruising, crease-clearing right-side defenseman. Can't wait to see him in preseason.
I agree he is the perfect guy for the Rangers

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I personally believe Miller has a much higher upside than Hagelin.

Love Hagelin, but I think he is what he is. a 2nd/3rd line complimentary player. I think Miller can be a catalyst.
I agree on JT Miller, but from my own point of view, I can only call off all bets regarding Hagelin and top end potential.

Hagelin does so many things so extremely well, that the offense could come despite the fact that he doesn't have top end offensive abilities (playmaking/sniping). Is he a new Straka? Hagman? Or what? Its hard to tell at this point.

Miller will become a really valuble clutch player no doubt.

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This is a really interesting one for me. I think there are several players that could wind up with better careers than Hagelin - but, Hags has already produced at a phenomenal level and those other players are going to have to jump a level in their production towards their potential before they can pass him on our list. ESPECIALLY, because Hags has an elite skill that will always give him a leg up.

Add Yogan - also in a close race over Fogarty and MSC.

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Miller for me.

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