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07-24-2012, 08:23 PM
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you can take our scraps or in 3 years you will get nothing for him! **** now that you mention it.. seems like 3 years is the new tomorrow. DEAL!

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Good for Nashville. They couldn't lose their captain. Now let's see if they move him.
Move who? They can't trade Weber for a while...

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Smith. Wilson is a winger.

This I could actually see being done. We just re-signed Wilson, so I don't think we'll move him. But I could definitely see something like;

Smith + Blum + 1st
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Ryan

we're not entirely committed to Craig Smith IMO.

Let's make it happen, you get your center and a first and young d-man and we get a guy that can finally score over 30 goals. deal.

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Smith sucks at faceoffs, and he hits like twice a season.

I doubt that is what we are looking for if we trade Bobby.
We have Holland, Bonino, Rakell, Wagner in who we are hoping to see our 2nd C in couple years. Until then, we`d use experienced center who can win FO`s.
Not sure if 1st is also what we are looking for.

I wouldn`t make that deal.

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07-25-2012, 03:19 AM
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This I could actually see being done. We just re-signed Wilson, so I don't think we'll move him. But I could definitely see something like;

Smith + Blum + 1st
for
Ryan

we're not entirely committed to Craig Smith IMO.

Let's make it happen, you get your center and a first and young d-man and we get a guy that can finally score over 30 goals. deal.
I don't really think Smith is that much of a better option than Holland going forward to do that trade. Smith is a massive downgrade from Ryan and Blum isn't going to be helping us this year.

Smith + Hornqvist I would do though.

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07-25-2012, 03:22 AM
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I don't think so. I don't think Smith is the kind of centre we're looking for, and adding another defenseman to already set defense and solid defensive prospect pool isn't really needed. What it basically means, we need a better centre coming back.

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I don't really think Smith is that much of a better option than Holland going forward to do that trade. Smith is a massive downgrade from Ryan and Blum isn't going to be helping us this year.

Smith + Hornqvist I would do though.
I wouldn't.


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07-25-2012, 03:36 AM
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I don't really think Smith is that much of a better option than Holland going forward to do that trade. Smith is a massive downgrade from Ryan and Blum isn't going to be helping us this year.

Smith + Hornqvist I would do though.
Another RW?

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07-25-2012, 03:39 AM
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Another RW?
Can he not play LW? He's among the best net presences in the league and would fit in well on the top line if he can play LW.

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Blum had a pretty bad year from what I hear.

What about Smith+Wilson+pick?

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Can he not play LW? He's among the best net presences in the league and would fit in well on the top line if he can play LW.
I have no idea. I was just going off his listing from the team page.

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I don't really think Smith is that much of a better option than Holland going forward to do that trade. Smith is a massive downgrade from Ryan and Blum isn't going to be helping us this year.

Smith + Hornqvist I would do though.
How is getting a talented young center that plays well with Palmieri not what we're looking for right now?

I agree about Blum.

Edit: My only issue is that I think I'd only be interested in landing Smith to play with Bobby; another one of our forwards he played well with, but if we had to move Bobby, getting Smith as part of the deal isn't settling for less.


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How about

To Anaheim:
LEAFSTROLL

To Toronto:
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I'm tired of being placed on the block every time something goes wrong on these boards. I really like the guys on the Red Wings board. I wouldn't mind posting there.

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How is getting a talented young center that plays well with Palmieri not what we're looking for right now?

I agree about Blum.
How is Smith any better than Anisimov? Smith + Wilson + Blum + 1st would be basicly the same package Columbus got for Nash. Meh. Rather have 2 real 2nd liners or guys with very high potential.

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I'm tired of being placed on the block every time something goes wrong on these boards. I really like the guys on the Red Wings board. I wouldn't mind posting there.
Well, getting Zetterburger would be tempting, but I am afraid he's untouchable. Besides, Last I checked you didnt have no NTC/NMC


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07-25-2012, 04:27 AM
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How is Smith any better than Anisimov? Smith + Wilson + Blum + 1st would be basicly the same package Columbus got for Nash. Meh. Rather have 2 real 2nd liners or guys with very high potential.
Smith is a playmaker with goalscoring ability. Anisimov is a defensive specialist. We'd also be getting someone that has chemistry with the guy that we'd be replacing Bobby with.

Why exactly does Smith not have real high potential? This was a guy that was in the Calder hunt for a good chunk of last season. I think he's one of only two or three players that Trotz has allowed to bypass the minors in Nashville.

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07-25-2012, 05:15 AM
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Smith is a playmaker with goalscoring ability. Anisimov is a defensive specialist. We'd also be getting someone that has chemistry with the guy that we'd be replacing Bobby with.

Why exactly does Smith not have real high potential? This was a guy that was in the Calder hunt for a good chunk of last season. I think he's one of only two or three players that Trotz has allowed to bypass the minors in Nashville.
Just not impressed with Smith really. Playmaker yes, goalscorer no, size no, defensive game lacking, faceoffs suck, not physical.

Calder hunt? 36 points? Ok. As a 22 year old I don't think there was much reason to put in minors and Nashville is weak at center anyways.

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Just not impressed with Smith really. Playmaker yes, goalscorer no, size no, defensive game lacking, faceoffs suck, not physical.

Calder hunt? 36 points? Ok. As a 22 year old I don't think there was much reason to put in minors and Nashville is weak at center anyways.
His defense didn't look like a problem with his time on the national team. Not a goalscorer? Though I like how faceoff percentage is a problem with Smith, but I don't hear those objections with Stepan.

Trotz puts almost every prospect into the minors. He's a bit of a hardass.

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His defense didn't look like a problem with his time on the national team. Not a goalscorer? Though I like how faceoff percentage is a problem with Smith, but I don't hear those objections with Stepan.

Trotz puts almost every prospect into the minors. He's a bit of a hardass.
National team? You mean those 11 WC games he's played? C'mon, that sample size is too small. What makes you think he is a goalscorer? He has scored less than the "defensive specialist" (Anisimov) at every level.

I mean if we wanted a soft small playmaker who can't win faceoffs we could have signed Kyle Wellwood for free.

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Edit: Never mind, I give up.


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Edit: Never mind, I give up.
Ok, agree to disagree. To me Smith just hasn't showed that hes any better than Anisimov or any other 2nd/3rd line tweener like that. So trading Bobby for him would be too much of a gamble, IMO.

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#NHL-- Sam Cachardi out of Philly reports #Flyers and #NHLDucks talking Bobby Ryan trade and ANH wants Sean Couturier as part of deal.
But but, according to the Flyers fans, Couturier is more valuable than Ryan, how can this be!

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But but, according to the Flyers fans, Couturier is more valuable than Ryan, how can this be!
lolol.... shhhh... Couturier + Voracek/Simmonds... Everyone keeps chastising me but i'm adamant that's what it's gonna take.

EDIT: this doesn't mean it will happen but just what it's going to take to make it happen from a Ducks perspective.


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I can actually understand Philly fans not wanting to part with either of them for Ryan. Last year Schenn was seen by some as the best prospect not in the NHL. And Couturier had spent large portions of his pre-draft time as the presumptive #1. So there's a lot of potential upside.

But there's this strange selective hearing going on. They quote Philly sources stating that Holmgren is not willing to part with Schenn or Couturier. OTH, there's also Philly sources (not sure if same or other) saying that Murray is insisting on one of those two. As well as multiple sources from around the country regarding other teams that the centerpiece for Ryan is always a young center.

So how can they conclude that Murray will accept packages around defensemen, wingers, and picks? If you take some Philly sources as gospel that those two are non-starters, why don't you also take as gospel that a Ryan trade will require a center?

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But but, according to the Flyers fans, Couturier is more valuable than Ryan, how can this be!
"... part of deal." surely means it's Ryan+ for Couturier.

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