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The Good, the Bad and the Ugly: Bobby Hunting [All Bobby Ryan Discussion | Part VI]

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07-25-2012, 01:59 PM
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Why isn't Boston in on this?

Maybe something around Krejci for Ryan?

The Ducks get their 2nd line center, and the Bruins get a legit goal scorer.
Because Murray wants 2 legit, not borderline, top six players. I don't see Boston adding one of those to Krejci.

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Ana - Mtl - Chi

to Ana:
-P.Kane

to Mtl:
-B.Ryan

to Chi:
-T.Plekanec
-????
-????


please give me your opinion on what Mtl should give with Plekanec to make
this trade work.

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I'm beginning to think that Chiarelli and Boston aren't interested in anyone but Jarome Iginla and are going to stand pat and hope Horton returns to form and that Feaster sells at the deadline.

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No Coutourier or Schenn, no deal, it's been that simple for 2 months

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to Ana:
-P.Kane

to Mtl:
-B.Ryan

to Chi:
-T.Plekanec
-????
-????


please give me your opinion on what Mtl should give with Plekanec to make
this trade work.
Tinordi/Beaulieu+3rd

Why didn't you put this in the other thread?

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How about a Kesler for Ryan swap? If Schroeder performs well I think this could be a win-win trade for both teams, and I think the value is pretty fair.
I think a Kesler, Ryan swap is even on terms of value.. As far as the trade goes id personally accept it as a Ducks fan. Others may not including other Ducks and Canucks fans. But from a pure value perspective on a 1 for 1 trade this would be extremely close.

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If Buffalo can get another center somehow, I'd offer:
Hodgson + Adam + 2nd for Ryan
Change Adam with Armia and the Ducks probably bite.

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I would love for the Devils to inquire about Ryan

don't know if we have the assets though

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No Coutourier or Schenn, no deal, it's been that simple for 2 months
as a ducks fan i think that is true. However, I will not speak in absolutes because you never know.

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did the NASH trade not teach you hfboarders anything? ...again since this always happens

you are overvaluing ONE player that can only be obtain through TRADE way way way way way too much

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I think a Kesler, Ryan swap is even on terms of value.. As far as the trade goes id personally accept it as a Ducks fan. Others may not including other Ducks and Canucks fans. But from a pure value perspective on a 1 for 1 trade this would be extremely close.
That was my feeling as a Canucks fan when I was writing that comment too. I wouldn't love the trade, but I think it's fair and although it leaves a hole down the middle for the Canucks, I think Schroeder and/or Gaunce should be able to patch it up within the next 2 years.

EDIT:

A future line-up (future being ~2014/2015) of

Sedin-Sedin-Ryan
Jensen-Schroeder-Kassian
Hansen-Gaunce-Burrows

is pretty mouth-watering on paper

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If Buffalo can get another center somehow, I'd offer:
Hodgson + Adam + 2nd for Ryan
Hodgson is one of the last players Buffalo can give up.

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that has always seemed like the most logical trade to me, however, I would rather keep Ryan if it's not for Krejci + (something about Krejci just leaves me underwhelmed, really just personal opinion)
I have the same feeling about Ryan ... rather straight up or not at all !!! just my opinion but Krejci could easily break out too.. I like Ryan but its a gamble for us too

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did the NASH trade not teach you hfboarders anything? ...again since this always happens

you are overvaluing ONE player that can only be obtain through TRADE way way way way way too much
have you learned anything? the Nash trade was in no way similar to the Ryan trade in terms of leverage.

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I would love for the Devils to inquire about Ryan

don't know if we have the assets though
I'd guess the return would have to include Henrique. Or Zajac, but with NJ adding.

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did the NASH trade not teach you hfboarders anything? ...again since this always happens

you are overvaluing ONE player that can only be obtain through TRADE way way way way way too much
Ducks don't have a winger on a massive contract, who had a trade request and got to pick and choose to which teams he could move to.

And yes, despite what some people may say, Ryan isn't disgruntled to the point where he's demanding a trade.

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Tinordi/Beaulieu+3rd

Why didn't you put this in the other thread?
yea i should have.
so Plekanec, Tinordi and 3rd rounder... i'd do it

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I'd guess the return would have to include Henrique. Or Zajac, but with NJ adding.

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did the NASH trade not teach you hfboarders anything? ...again since this always happens

you are overvaluing ONE player that can only be obtain through TRADE way way way way way too much
The Nash trade taught us that overpaid, underachieving wings with 40 goal potential that publicly demand a trade to one of 5 teams return scraps if that team happens to be one of the worst two GM's in the league.

The Gaustad trade taught us 4th line rental centers are worth a 1st if every team can bid at the trade deadline.

Neither lesson is relevant to Ryan.

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No Coutourier or Schenn, no deal, it's been that simple for 2 months
Right, which is the real issue going on behind the scenes here. If Holmgren would have parted with either he would have likely gotten Weber in a trade. Now. it's holding up and deal or Ryan. You have to give to get.

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I would offer this for Ryan from the Sharks:


Ryan


Pavelski
Demers

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did the NASH trade not teach you hfboarders anything? ...again since this always happens

you are overvaluing ONE player that can only be obtain through TRADE way way way way way too much
Nash has a bad contract and a NTC, limiting the playing field.
Ryan does not.

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I would offer this for Ryan from the Sharks:


Ryan


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No need for Demers.

Pavelski + Clowe for Ryan + , in reality neither team does it though.

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The Nash trade taught us that overpaid, underachieving wings with 40 goal potential that publicly demand a trade to one of 5 teams return scraps if that team happens to be one of the worst two GM's in the league.

The Gaustad trade taught us 4th line rental centers are worth a 1st if every team can bid at the trade deadline.

Neither lesson is relevant to Ryan.
under achieving??? hes playing for the CBJ.......
put B.Ryan on the CBJ and lets see if he will hit 35goals
each season. i highly doubt he will.
its not the GM thats bad, its how the NHL works.
stop trying to blame the GM or the player, and accept the fact
that if Rick Nash got traded for not more than couple decent players
then theres absolutely no reason why B.Ryan should be getting more in
return.

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No need for Demers.

Pavelski + Clowe for Ryan + , in reality neither team does it though.
It would depend on what the + would be and if we get Doan.

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