Of course he does. He signed a deal that was 50/50 chance of 14 years in Philly or 14 years in Nash.
He would have had to be ok with both outcomes. He has no NTC and will be at the whim of GM's for the rest of his career.
If he didn't want to be in Nashville he would have asked to be traded or waited until next season, refusing to negotiate a deal now. Kind of like how Suter didn't negotiate very much at all on a new contract with Nashville.
I don't think it's that simple at all. He probably didn't think Nashville had a shot to match that contract. It's really impossible to tell for sure, but you can't say he wants to be in Nashville for certain after all that's went down with him this Summer and Suter leaving.
Not if there are rollbacks in new CBA and they want any signing bonuses eliminated too.
Even if it's rolled back, there's 11 years of getting paid a lot of money. Odds are he wouldn't have been able to get a contract that guarantees him as much money as this one ultimately will over his career one year from now. He's got his whole life to consider, I'd lock in too.
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philly lost a trading partner for sure after this debacle.
apparently Holmgren and Poile are good friends
ever thought that perhaps this is the best thing that Philly could have done for Nashville? They locked up the best defenseman in the league for 14 years
Weber may not have signed with Nashville after next season - I think Nashville should be thanking Philly for this assistance
Lol, where is Mess and his "this defense pairing will haunt the Leafs for years to come" conspiracy theory?
Nashville matching is great news for Toronto no matter how you slice it..
Keeping Weber out of the East and away from Philly is only good news for all Eastern conference teams and its great for Nashville as well.
Teams like Philly and Leafs who send revenue sharing money out each season can now subsidize the Weber contract (particularly the bonus portion) for Nashville.
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ever thought that perhaps this is the best thing that Philly could have done for Nashville? They locked up the best defenseman in the league for 14 years
Weber may not have signed with Nashville after next season - I think Nashville should be thanking Philly for this assistance
True, IF Webber want to stay. What if he demands a trade next summer when the year of no-trade is gone?
Anyway, so happy Nashville matched....for the fact that they don't deserve to loose their franchise like this and also because Webber stays in the West
After reading how Philly ownership is pushing hard to eliminate "signing bonuses" in new CBA, yet just tried the biggest "signing bonus coupe" in NHL history with this offer sheet???
ever thought that perhaps this is the best thing that Philly could have done for Nashville? They locked up the best defenseman in the league for 14 years
Weber may not have signed with Nashville after next season - I think Nashville should be thanking Philly for this assistance
This contract is terrible for the Preds because they're forced to pay 27 million dollars to Web in 1 year. For a cash-starved franchise, that is a massive blow. They'll have to do unspeakable things to borrow that sort of money.
This contract is terrible for the Preds because they're forced to pay 27 million dollars to Web in 1 year. For a cash-starved franchise, that is a massive blow. They'll have to do unspeakable things to borrow that sort of money.
I personally think that it was a game of chicken between the two clubs and Nash stepped up! I think they were trying to get Philly to present a trade in order to not match the contract but Philly didn't budge because they thought Nash wouldn't match it. Now since Nash matched the offer I believe that they will start calling around and trade Weber for a fair return. According to Weber's agent they could not put a no trade clause in an offer sheet, I think this will get real interesting.
This contract is terrible for the Preds because they're forced to pay 27 million dollars to Web in 1 year. For a cash-starved franchise, that is a massive blow. They'll have to do unspeakable things to borrow that sort of money.
I'm sure they'll manage and if they can't pay it they will borrow the rest or sell a stake in the company like most businesses do when they need capital
This contract is terrible for the Preds because they're forced to pay 27 million dollars to Web in 1 year. For a cash-starved franchise, that is a massive blow. They'll have to do unspeakable things to borrow that sort of money.
A large-portion of that would be paid through revenue sharing receipts if there's a season.
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I don't think it's that simple at all. He probably didn't think Nashville had a shot to match that contract. It's really impossible to tell for sure, but you can't say he wants to be in Nashville for certain after all that's went down with him this Summer and Suter leaving.
Weber had to have known that there was a very real possibility Nashville would match this offer, considering the implications for the franchise his departure represented and Poile's comments about matching anything. This is a team that has cultivated a large fan-base on the strength of icing competitive teams that make the playoffs. Without Suter and Weber, this team could very well miss the playoffs for the next few years. Attendance would shrink, revenues would be lost from lower gate sales and no playoff games. Over the next few years they easily could lose the $26-27M they'd be paying Weber otherwise if the team's performance declined without their super-talented top-pairing.
By keeping Weber they can use him for a year to stay competitive then trade him next off-season for a far larger, and more NHL-ready, bounty than 4 late first rounders.
If he couldn't think that analytically, he's an idiot, and so is his agent.
I personally think that it was a game of chicken between the two clubs and Nash stepped up! I think they were trying to get Philly to present a trade in order to not match the contract but Philly didn't budge because they thought Nash wouldn't match it. Now since Nash matched the offer I believe that they will start calling around and trade Weber for a fair return. According to Weber's agent they could not put a no trade clause in an offer sheet, I think this will get real interesting.
Any player matched is not eligible for trade until a year has transpired
This contract is terrible for the Preds because they're forced to pay 27 million dollars to Web in 1 year. For a cash-starved franchise, that is a massive blow. They'll have to do unspeakable things to borrow that sort of money.
Well as Doug Maclean said tonight if the new CBA has increased revenue sharing the Preds will get even more money which should offset 6 or 7 million per year. Nice to know the Leafs who don't believe in these ridiculous contracts will actually be subsidizing one of them
Well as Doug Maclean said tonight if the new CBA has increased revenue sharing the Preds will get even more money which should offset 6 or 7 million per year. Nice to know the Leafs who don't believe in these ridiculous contracts will actually be subsidizing one of them
Yes, but surely you can't fault Nashville for that. They tried to be fiscally responsible.
The league salaries got out of control because of spending imbeciles in Philly, New York, etc, the revenue sharing went into effect because of these imbeciles, and if the revenue sharing increases, it will once again be because of these imbeciles - and the contract offers like this one.
Weber had to have known that there was a very real possibility Nashville would match this offer, considering the implications for the franchise his departure represented and Poile's comments about matching anything. This is a team that has cultivated a large fan-base on the strength of icing competitive teams that make the playoffs. Without Suter and Weber, this team could very well miss the playoffs for the next few years. Attendance would shrink, revenues would be lost from lower gate sales and no playoff games. Over the next few years they easily could lose the $26-27M they'd be paying Weber otherwise if the team's performance declined without their super-talented top-pairing.
By keeping Weber they can use him for a year to stay competitive then trade him next off-season for a far larger, and more NHL-ready, bounty than 4 late first rounders.
If he couldn't think that analytically, he's an idiot, and so is his agent.
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Fair to say Weber and those close to him are surprised Preds matched. You don't sign a sheet like that if you expect the team to match.
Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
Fair to say Weber and those close to him are surprised Preds matched. You don't sign a sheet like that if you expect the team to match.
All I did was mention all the things Weber should have thought of, and if he didn't take that into consideration he's an idiot, and so is his agent for advising him to sign the offer sheet.
It actually surprises me that he's surprised about this.
Yes, but surely you can't fault Nashville for that. They tried to be fiscally responsible.
The league salaries got out of control because of spending imbeciles in Philly, New York, etc, the revenue sharing went into effect because of these imbeciles, and if the revenue sharing increases, it will once again be because of these imbeciles - and the contract offers like this one.
Actually, teams cannot overspend, there's a cap. There is a fixed amount of money that can be spent on players, it is only the distribution of that money that can be changed.
Well as Doug Maclean said tonight if the new CBA has increased revenue sharing the Preds will get even more money which should offset 6 or 7 million per year. Nice to know the Leafs who don't believe in these ridiculous contracts will actually be subsidizing one of them
The new CBA is going to be interesting, especially if the welfare clubs are demanding more money from the fans of other teams.
Perhaps we'll see a luxury tax implemented with a lower floor.
At some point fans paying through the nose for fans who don't want to pay have to receive something in return.
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Fair to say Weber and those close to him are surprised Preds matched. You don't sign a sheet like that if you expect the team to match.
Then he's an idiot.
There was a 50/50 chance they would match. There are no sure things in life. He took the chance they'd match. They did match. That he gambled they wouldn't do, is all on him, no one else. Enjoy the absurd life this money will allow you to live by playing a game and move on.
Actually, teams cannot overspend, there's a cap. There is a fixed amount of money that can be spent on players, it is only the distribution of that money that can be changed.
As we've seen, the current version of the cap has been easily circumvented by the loose spenders. That's why Weber is due 27 mil dollars over the course of 1 year, but only counts for 7.8 mil against a team's cap.
